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1.) Wild Bob - 04/30/2015
Anyone done any fishing?

Me and my youngest put out our minnow trap the day before last to start stocking up a good supply of bait. I didn't take any pictures, (may be I'll get one tonight...) but we had a good haul for just one night. We didn't mess around counting, but I guessing at least a good 8-10 dozen fatheads. :tu:

I see walleye and pike in the not too distant future...
2.) Swamp Fox - 04/30/2015
I've done a bit but am off to a slower start than usual. Some of that is weather-related, some of it's me. I usually start up in February (unless we get an extended warm spell in January) but Feb was a disaster weather-wise this year, and I don't know what happened in March, LOL.

I'd like to see your trap and storage tank when you get around to it.

If anyone will be in central NC or between Columbia and Myrtle Beach, SC this summer and wants to do some paddle fishing (from small boats, not for paddlefish, LOL) let me know. Actually, the offer stands almost year-round, but maybe some of you are planning summer vacations...
3.) billy b - 04/30/2015
Crappie fishing in Texas tomorrow:hb:
4.) Swamp Fox - 05/01/2015
Good luck, Billy! Take some pics! I'm trying to do better on that myself.

The bigger crappie are coming back here in my backyard, after a cold-related die-off. Bream are tearing it up in the ponds. Bass are still biting well and stripers are on the mend after a heat-related die-off, LOL...Unfortunately, I can't give a saltwater report because everything I like to fish for in the briny bites best during deer season, so something has to give, and I don't pay a lot of attention the rest of the year, LOL.
5.) Wild Bob - 05/01/2015
SF -I will get some pictures for you this evening or tomorrow...been a busy week with not much time for anything else!

Billy - Good luck from me as well, lets see that full stringer!! :tu:
6.) Deerminator - 05/01/2015
Walleye opens tomarrow. I have done some trout fish'n.
7.) billy b - 05/01/2015
No crappie on my brush piles yet, reports are they were late spawning this year, I'll try em again next week.
8.) Swamp Fox - 05/01/2015
Do your crappie spawn relatively deep? Your brush is even deeper?
9.) billy b - 05/02/2015
Crappie here spawn 1 to 4 feet usually, the lake was 12 feet low & has came up over 9 feet in the past month, I think it has messed them up & postponed the spawn, the lake is still rising almost 6 inches every 24 hours.
10.) Swamp Fox - 05/02/2015
Yikes!

That's tough fishing.

Post some pictures when you get into them! :beer:
11.) Wild Bob - 05/02/2015
So here you go SF; the pics you asked for:

My bait tank is super creative...:re: it's made out of an old metal Coleman Cooler. I use a one or two small Frabrill air packs to aerate it, just depends on how many minnows I have in it. It works pretty good as long as I don't over crowd it too much - just change the water out about once every week to week and a half. At times I've kept bait alive in there for upto 3 months at a time.


I just drilled a hole for air line so I can close the lid down w/o cutting off air and no one jumps out if I have it on the full side. :-)



The trap I use is just a basic commercial bought trap (I think it cost me all of 7 bucks at Walmart!)


But it all pays off well...the best deal I can find for a good supply of fatheads or chub minnows locally is $7.50 per dozen. This was one evening's effort driving out setting it, and pulling it the next evening. :tu:
12.) Wild Bob - 05/02/2015
So here you go SF; the pics you asked for:

My bait tank is super creative...:re: it's made out of an old metal Coleman Cooler. I use a one or two small Frabrill air packs to aerate it, just depends on how many minnows I have in it. It works pretty good as long as I don't over crowd it too much - just change the water out about once every week to week and a half. At times I've kept bait alive in there for upto 3 months at a time.


I just drilled a hole for air line so I can close the lid down w/o cutting off air and no one jumps out if I have it on the full side. :-)



The trap I use is just a basic commercial bought trap (I think it cost me all of 7 bucks at Walmart!)



But it all pays off well...the best deal I can find for a good supply of fatheads or chub minnows locally is $7.50 per dozen. This was one evening's effort driving out setting it, and pulling it the next evening. :tu:
13.) Swamp Fox - 05/02/2015
:tu::tu:

Ouch! You all have the high-dollar minners out there. :wink

What's your method for changing the water?

Not that I use a ton of live bait, but at one time I thought about doing something similar, except round for shad (they like to bunch up in corners and commit suicide). I came to the conclusion it wouldn't be worth it because they're so delicate, even if you can get past the hurdle of keeping the water cool enough and the constant filtering, blah, blah, blah.

There's a reason it's standard practice to catch your shad each morning before you put a line in the water, LOL.

I love looking at the nicer commercially-available bait tanks and trying to justify them for my own use, but so far I can't. Who knew a big, souped-up plastic bucket could cost so much?, LOL.

I did rig a couple of different-size round Igloo water coolers with aerators for one-trip use and they work well for minnows. Haven't had a lot of shad in them, but I think even the bigger of my two tanks is small for shad (I have the three-gallon and the five-gallon).

I would like to try something bigger, but I don't think I want more weight in my boat, so I may be topped out. I'm fooling with the idea of giving something in the 10-12 gallon range a whirl, though, after initially deciding against that. Wishy-washy, you say? Or No Guts, No Glory, right? LOL...There are some inexpensive ones commercially-available that I could try just for S&Gs. I don't think they were out there years ago when I first started fooling with this.

Does anyone know of a good, easy source for flexible plastic panels that could be cut if necessary and then fastened to form an oval inside a rectangular cooler or fish box if I don't find something round I like?
14.) Deerminator - 05/02/2015
:tu:
15.) Swamp Fox - 05/02/2015
Correction: I have the two-gallon and the three-gallon Igloos. I was just in the hardware store and saw the five-gallon and was reminded why I didn't buy it: I think it's a little tall for my narrow little boats. Maybe a little tall to climb over, plus a little sloshy and slidey when the ski boats buzz me, LOL.

They're just jealous 'cause all their chicks wanna be paddlin' with me in my little pirogues... LOL.





Imagine an aerator hooked into that cup sleeve bracket. I ran the hose down from the top through the lid rather than through the side on the cooler. Not sure I'd do it differently if I build another one; I don't have to worry about leaks if I fill the tank high this way, and the inconvenience of the hose in the lid is minor. But it's there.


I looked around a little this afternoon, and so far I'm not having any luck finding small, round, insulated tanks that push my button. I'd go 5-10 gallons (12 is probably too big the more I think about it) if anyone knows of something. I'd like something fairly squat (more squat than a five gallon bucket, say, taking capacity into account on a relative basis). Round and insulated would be next on my wish list. Something with an interior darker than white would be ideal. Pre-rigged with an aerator, or some type of container that would be aerator-and pump-capable on one of my better, handier days with the Dremel and some sealant.

If none of that pans out, I'm back to rigging a big rectangular cooler with a plastic panel oval liner, though I think that's going to take up a lot of "deck" space, LOL.

Let me know of any ideas, crazy or otherwise. :wink
16.) bluecat - 05/04/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;31675]Correction: I have the two-gallon and the three-gallon Igloos. I was just in the hardware store and saw the five-gallon and was reminded why I didn't buy it: I think it's a little tall for my narrow little boats. Maybe a little tall to climb over, plus a little sloshy and slidey when the ski boats buzz me, LOL.

They're just jealous 'cause all their chicks wanna be paddlin' with me in my little pirogues... LOL.





Imagine an aerator hooked into that cup sleeve bracket. I ran the hose down from the top through the lid rather than through the side on the cooler. Not sure I'd do it differently if I build another one; I don't have to worry about leaks if I fill the tank high this way, and the inconvenience of the hose in the lid is minor. But it's there.


I looked around a little this afternoon, and so far I'm not having any luck finding small, round, insulated tanks that push my button. I'd go 5-10 gallons (12 is probably too big the more I think about it) if anyone knows of something. I'd like something fairly squat (more squat than a five gallon bucket, say, taking capacity into account on a relative basis). Round and insulated would be next on my wish list. Something with an interior darker than white would be ideal. Pre-rigged with an aerator, or some type of container that would be aerator-and pump-capable on one of my better, handier days with the Dremel and some sealant.

If none of that pans out, I'm back to rigging a big rectangular cooler with a plastic panel oval liner, though I think that's going to take up a lot of "deck" space, LOL.

Let me know of any ideas, crazy or otherwise. :wink[/QUOTE]

Swampy, what do you think of your igloo? I was thinking about getting the 2-gallon. Pour spouts on the top of coolers ALWAYS leak. Was thinking about trying this.
17.) Swamp Fox - 05/04/2015
I've had no problems with mine, but of course I don't use the spigot much. I do use it to let old water out the bottom as I pour fresh water in. The little 2 and 3 usually ride between my legs, and this is easy to do while seated. Most of the water drained runs out or at least toward the scupper holes, in case that's important to anyone, LOL.

The lids on these water jugs is pressure-fit and is not coming off by accident, LOL I also imagine it's a better seal than a screw-top jug has.

In other news, I found a five-gallon Igloo at Walmart yesterday that was at least $20 (even up to 30) less than what you usually see them for. Same exact thing as the yellow industrial coolers, but with a white top you can sit on. I snatched it up in case they stop making them before I need one, LOL.

I think yellow will fight the sun more than the blue or orange alternatives I found at Wally World, but I got the blue one 'cause I couldn't resist the everyday low price, and it looks at least somewhat nautical, LOL.

BTW, they make a light blue MaxCold in the 5-gallon, but they're hard to find. If this standard cooler winds up working out, I'd trade-up in a heartbeat for the MaxCold for summer fishing. I'm a huge fan of that line of coolers. I could use the original for a home tank or put it in the "guest boat." (If I'm fishing with a guest as opposed to just paddling him around, I put him in his own boat. The guest gets to stretch out and get the true joy of small boats, and I don't get fishhooks in my ear. :wink)

I think I can get this thing to ride in the bow or the stern, now that I have one to play with instead of just imagining. Wherever it goes, I'll have to brace it with something heavy like a battery box or one of a couple of other ideas I have in mind. Without having to doing anything handy to my boat, right now I can strap it down in the stern, but I'd have to play Bob the Boatbuilder if I want the same in the bow.

Might not be worth the effort. Would be too much weight when running a bow-mount trolling motor, which I'm in the middle of rigging up after much creative thinking, LOL. Putting the tank in the bow also blocks your visibility somewhat, and makes the storage hatch a little clumsy to get to. But if I or a guest run a motor at the stern, at least I have the option. Blah, blah, blah...

I'll take it for a test run with some ballast on a non-fishing day so no valuable gear goes overboard in the event of a an encounter with chop or a ski boat, and report back for everyone who's interested, LOL.




But you didn't want to know all that...You just want to know if the jug leaks, LOL.

No, it does not. :wink :wave:
18.) billy b - 05/04/2015
Maybe I need to get one of those things to keep my jigs alive:bang:
19.) Swamp Fox - 05/04/2015
Keep the water cool and aerated, and you'll be golden, LOL.

And try to keep the jigs from congregating at the bottom of the tank. :-)
20.) billy b - 05/04/2015
They do like to stick together.
21.) Wild Bob - 05/04/2015
"What's your method for changing the water?" - SF

Answer: I've got a pretty handy set up that makes changing the water fairly quick and painless. I have a small gallon and a half bucket that I keep right there next to the tank, then I just dip the water down until its about 6" deep. That makes it quick and easy to transfer the minnows out into another bucket. Then I just pour out the remaining dirty water.

What makes it really easy is that I have a floor drain in my garage about 5 feet away from the tank so I just dip and pour the dirty water down there. If I'm feeling really industrious; I'll take my buckets of dirty water out the garage door and walk another 20 feet and dump it on lawn or landscaping...if I want to be quick about it - it just goes down the floor drain. Then I have a hose that stays hooked up in my garage and it only takes a few steps to pull it over, rinse out the tank, refill, and flow some clean water down the floor drain. (That ensures that it never smells fishy in there!)

All in all, I find it a pretty enjoyable little task to do in the evening while I enjoy a beverage and listen to a little music. Normally it takes me about all of 10 minutes to take care of it. :tu:

Although, I do have an idea to make it even easier: It is to build or find a small stand to put my tank on (to elevate it), then buy a piece of clear surgical hose that fits the spout on my cooler, and install a little valve on it...Then, all I'd have to do would be to block the out flow spout with a net so no one swins down the out flow spout, pull the hose over to the floor drain, open her up and drain it down. Then I could either remove the minnows as I do now or I could just in flow with my hose and just flush it...:cool:


"I love looking at the nicer commercially-available bait tanks and trying to justify them for my own use, but so far I can't. Who knew a big, souped-up plastic bucket could cost so much?, LOL." - SF

- A friend of mine runs a much larger set up than I do in his garage, and he's made a very nice set using a black colored plastic horse watering trough. He fabricated a nice top with a hinged lid from plastic pannels. It not commercial, but pretty close to it; very durable and 200 gallons holds a lot of minnows!

Temperature issues: fortunately non for use here; kept inside the garage it stays cool all summer, and our water source is nice and cold.
22.) Swamp Fox - 05/04/2015
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;31695]...
Although, I do have an idea to make it even easier: It is to build or find a small stand to put my tank on (to elevate it), then buy a piece of clear surgical hose that fits the spout on my cooler, and install a little valve on it...Then, all I'd have to do would be to block the out flow spout with a net so no one swins down the out flow spout, pull the hose over to the floor drain, open her up and drain it down. Then I could either remove the minnows as I do now or I could just in flow with my hose and just flush it...:cool:


"I love looking at the nicer commercially-available bait tanks and trying to justify them for my own use, but so far I can't. Who knew a big, souped-up plastic bucket could cost so much?, LOL." - SF

- A friend of mine runs a much larger set up than I do in his garage, and he's made a very nice set using a black colored plastic horse watering trough. He fabricated a nice top with a hinged lid from plastic pannels. It not commercial, but pretty close to it; very durable and 200 gallons holds a lot of minnows!

Temperature issues: fortunately non for use here; kept inside the garage it stays cool all summer, and our water source is nice and cold.[/QUOTE]


I figured that about the temps in your shed, LOL.


Wine in a box has some handy small valves you can cut from the bags. I have like a ton of them, LOL. Also, the bags make a decent, if quick, solar shower, BTW. At least around here, and especially if you lay them out on the hood of the Bronco in the sun.

What did your buddy use for the plastic lid? I think you can find plastic sheets to cut, but I'm not aware of any particular plastic supply house where I can look.

You could always use starboard, I suppose, but that's pretty expensive.
23.) Wild Bob - 05/05/2015
"What did your buddy use for the plastic lid? I think you can find plastic sheets to cut, but I'm not aware of any particular plastic supply house where I can look. " - SF

- I'm not sure where he found the plastic sheet material he used for the top...I have to ask him when I see him. I can tell you it's similar to the plastic that they make those white plastic cutting boards out of (roughly 1/2 thick and even though it is plastic it is has a slightly flexible rubber characteristic to it; in other words, it is not hard and brittle plastic - it flexes some).
24.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2015
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;31733]"What did your buddy use for the plastic lid? I think you can find plastic sheets to cut, but I'm not aware of any particular plastic supply house where I can look. " - SF

- I'm not sure where he found the plastic sheet material he used for the top...I have to ask him when I see him. I can tell you it's similar to the plastic that they make those white plastic cutting boards out of (roughly 1/2 thick and even though it is plastic it is has a slightly flexible rubber characteristic to it; in other words, it is not hard and brittle plastic - it flexes some).[/QUOTE]

Yes, I would be interested in any follow-up on that. I think I know what you mean comparing to cutting board.

BTW, if anyone's interested, some boat dealers will custom-cut starboard for you, and maybe they'd work with whatever material WB comes up with. I suppose straight cuts aren't that big of a deal to do on your own, but if you need something shaped...

I had the idea to build a bowplate which would mount a motor but still allow access to a hatch underneath, and a local place was willing to fabricate something for me. I never got around to it, though, and may have found an easier solution in the meantime, anyway. But good to know...
25.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2015
Also, I'd like to find non-brittle flexible black plastic such as you might make a sled or kiddie wading pool out of.

The idea is to fasten it into a circular tube or into an oval and use it as a liner inside a box or barrel.
26.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2015
Really doesn't need to be black. Just not white or veering in that direction.
27.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2015
That's what she said!


:-)