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1.) muleyfever1 - 02/04/2015
So I finally got a nu lograng deer riffle todsy. It's an old modil 94 Winchester . My daddy sed more deer Ben killd with a 94 than the plage.

Got a good deal on it but I can't find any of the nu ballistic tip style bullits. Whare is the best place to get sum? I want this setup for a 300 yd brush buster.
I kno yall no whare best plac wood be
2.) muleyfever1 - 02/04/2015
3.) BULLZ-i - 02/04/2015


4.) muleyfever1 - 02/05/2015
Thanks I'll luk into that brand . Hoosierdaddy? My daddy name is Leroy Jenkins
5.) bluecat - 02/05/2015
Okay muleyfever1, if you say so. :wink
6.) BULLZ-i - 02/06/2015
7.) Wild Bob - 02/06/2015
With a tubular magazine, such as in a Mod. 94 - You can't load ballistic tip style bullets (that's why you can't find any for sale) because they'll be hazardous. The pointy tip rests directly on the primer of the next loaded cartridge in the magazine which creates a risk for firing that round.

As Bullzi mentioned, the only thing remotely close to a longer range round for the 30-30 is Hornady's Leverevolution ammo.

Enjoy your rifle. :tu:
8.) Wild Bob - 02/06/2015
I just re-read your post...

Honestly, dude...I don't want to hurt your feelings; but a 30-30 isn't a 300 yard gun. By the time a 30-30 bullet reaches 200 yards, it's barely retaining 1,100 ft/lbs. of energy (that btw, is typically considered the minimum energy required to effectively kill a deer). Not to mention bullet drop, which after reaching 300 yards is anywhere from 12 to 24 inches low, depending on the load used.

Most of the experts consider 30-30s to be a fine rifle up to 150 yards; most won't even push that to 200 yards.

Again, in my opinion, the 30-30 is a fine quick handling brush gun, capable of efficient kills out to 150 to 175 yards. I would recommend getting some ballistic carts and studying those as well as spending a little time reading up on what caliber rifles the true experts like; Andrew McKean, Jim Carmichael, Ron Spomer, John Haviland, and Terry Wieland recommend for deer hunting.

Not trying to be mean here, just offering some sound information for you to learn from. (And, I used to own and hunt with a 30-30.)

Best of luck, and good hunting.
9.) muleyfever1 - 02/06/2015
Thanks fer the info Bob, I ordered sum of the Hornsby ammo that mr bullsi suggested . Maybi I will check on sum other kalibrers for over 200
10.) billy b - 02/06/2015
Uh. I think Bullz-e was on to something:wink
11.) Deerminator - 02/06/2015
12.) Floyd - 02/06/2015
Here is the link to the ballistics of the Hornady 30-30 Leverevolution.


Nosler has 30-30 Ballistic tip ammo too.


Hand load your own might get better ballistics.

13.) Wild Bob - 02/06/2015
Cool. Powders and bullet componets advance more and more every year; and I continually learn something every day about those advances.

But my opinion (which is obvisously only mine, as I always state) ...if one's goal is to reach out to 300 yards; there are much more efficent calibers to do it with. But if 300 is at the top end of what he is looking to achieve; then great, he has found a match that works for what he is looking for.

Again, enjoy your rifle and good hunting. :tu:
14.) Floyd - 02/07/2015
For sure there are better cartridges in 30 caliber to shoot out to 300 yards and beyond. Some are even less than 30 caliber (270, 280 to name a few)

For sure 338 Lapua (You know, just for fun)

15.) Floyd - 02/07/2015
Muley, if you want to stay with a lever action rifle there are alternatives out there to consider.

Like Browning's BLR series. [URL="http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=003B&catalog_=B"]http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=003B&catalog_=B[/URL]

16.) crookedeye - 02/07/2015
I shot a 307 and a 375..lever action... plus I played 3rd base..
17.) crookedeye - 02/07/2015
since we got Floyd talking we need to get dparker talking....dparker say flashlight...fla- ash--light...flashlight! now see if you can do it....
18.) Swamp Fox - 02/07/2015

19.) crookedeye - 02/07/2015
you would think the 3030 would b the ultimate survival rifle..
20.) crookedeye - 02/07/2015
I have this ole timers book ..grizzley or something like that ..and more grizzleys been killed with a 30 30 than any other cartridge..
21.) crookedeye - 02/07/2015
if I had to choose between one gun that I could have in a survival situation..it would be a 30 30...
22.) crookedeye - 02/08/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;29380]I have this ole timers book ..grizzley or something like that ..and more grizzleys been killed with a 30 30 than any other cartridge..[/QUOTE]

lol I state nothing but facts on here..
23.) Swamp Fox - 02/08/2015
That's why you're the man...

If I could find a Marlin 336C from the 70's (pre-external safety and pre-checkering) with good wood and in good condition, I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

I bought one in college, initially had a bit of trigger work done, then after about 15 or 20 years had the stock refinished to just the right satin tone, (metal and blue was still very good), later put a green fiber optic bead on the front (left the rear alone), and then some dirtbag broke in and stole it, along with the unmounted Redfield Widefield scope it wore for close to 30 years.

I wasn't hunting with that rifle much any more by the time it disappeared, but boy was it fun to shoot! Quite an adventure trying to find that green FO front sight to install, too. I think it wound up being a Marble. A few red options out there, but green was extraordinarily hard to come by, at least at that time.
24.) crookedeye - 02/08/2015
I had the Winchester 307 lever action but sold it about 15 years ago still have my Winchester 94 lever action 22..always wanted to get a 30 30 but never did..i actually won a gold plated 3030 at a nra banquet, gave that one to my dad.

I had to go on stage lol that 10 dollar mug I bought with free beer refills came in handy that night...
25.) crookedeye - 02/08/2015
I never could get the 307 to shoot straight..open sights.. shot to the left about a foot at 75 yards..let my boss use it for a texas hunt for whitetails ..you had to compensate a foot to the right..
26.) crookedeye - 02/08/2015
I don't no if that 3030 I won was fool's gold or not..its gold plated for all I no...
27.) Swamp Fox - 02/08/2015
I remember when the .307 was kind of a popular topic. Pretty interesting cartridge. I never shot a Winchester lever action open-sighted, I don't think. (I vaguely remember a scoped one, but that was probably .30-30 or .35)

If they were about the same as the Marlins with a big ol' buckhorn rear, I don't doubt they were a little difficult at 75 and 100 yards. Trigger was most likely a big part of that, though.

The tiny little sights Browning put on their BL.22s were okay, but I would have told everyone to put a scope on those, too. Most of the deer-caliber lever rifles were scoped back during my time with them, but I wound up taking my scope off the .30-30 (keeping it on the .22). I'm not really sure why I thought I preferred that, finally, but I enjoyed the firmer cheek weld shooting offhand, I suppose.