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1.) Swamp Fox - 01/12/2016
My predictions for the State of the Union Show tonight...


[COLOR="#FF0000"]Obama will say the following[/COLOR], in his own words, off-the-cuff, and with gut-wrenching sincerity and possibly a cameo by some moist eyes and pressed lips:



[COLOR="#FF0000"]There is little support for his agenda on most if not all fronts,[/COLOR]

[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/01/12/gallup-record-low-number-of-americans-identify-as-democrats-n2102792[/url]

[url]http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/10/rasmussen-majority-oppose-obamas-executive-action-for-gun-control/[/url]



[COLOR="#FF0000"]and though he has often backed down from a fight[/COLOR]

[url]https://www.commentarymagazine.com/foreign-policy/counting-up-obamas-cataclysmic-foreign-policy-failures/[/url]



[COLOR="#FF0000"]and bristles at input from all sides except his own,[/COLOR]

[url]http://humanevents.com/2012/01/30/barack-obama-our-thinskinned-president/[/url]



[COLOR="#FF0000"]he will not stoop so low as to beat his chest about his successes, foreign [/COLOR]

[url]http://downtrend.com/jrc410/obamas-top-10-foreign-policy-mistakes-and-failures-how-the-us-and-the-world-will-be-paying-for-years-to-come-as-a-result[/url]

[url]http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/21/obamas-foreign-policy-state-of-the-union-nonsense/[/url]



[COLOR="#FF0000"]or domestic, [/COLOR]

(too many links to possibly do the topic justice)


[COLOR="#FF0000"]and he welcomes all the justice and transparency to come, as he announces the indictment of Hillary Clinton for influence peddling and mishandling of U.S. information and property, though he wishes that something could also be done about the incompetence, dishonesty and inexplicable allegiance to failed and fundamentally un-American political philosophies, not only of Hillary, but of his entire administration. [/COLOR]

[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/18/ronald-kessler-obama-pardons-hillary-clinton-for-n/[/url]

[url]https://reason.com/blog/2013/02/28/the-most-openly-and-transparently-thin-s[/url]




So I expect it will be a pretty entertaining evening full of truth and humility.



:wave:
2.) bluecat - 01/12/2016
I'm sure it will be a hoot. I won't watch it as I would rather have a root canal than put myself through all the condescending rhetoric, the finger wagging, the lecturing, the name calling, the Islamic apologies and most of all the arrogance. I don't pretend to understand what is happening in the middle east. I can't pronounce half the names of the tribes and people that are either plotting to kill us or are being killed by ruthless dictators.

I just know some simple basic truths. Guns don't kill people. People have a right to defend themselves. Government is too big to know or understand what is happening at the ground level. The United States is not a soup kitchen. It's not a right to live here. It makes sense to make sure if you come here you don't want to kill us.
3.) Bob Peck - 01/12/2016
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5.) Swamp Fox - 01/13/2016
Don't ask me why, but I watched it, even though listening to him drone on about anything generally makes me retch. Maybe I knew how good it was going to feel when he finally shut up and we could be sure we wouldn't have to do this again.

You predicted a lot of it correctly[I]."Condescending rhetoric, the finger wagging, the lecturing, the name calling, the Islamic apologies and most of all the arrogance..."[/I]--- All there, in abundance. But you forgot hypocrisy, straw men, false choices, non sequiturs and misinformation...Those were off the charts.

But Joe Biden's gonna be put to work curing cancer, so we have that going for us.

After trying to fool us with the idea that he WASN'T going to drone on and on, he managed to turn in one of the longest SOTU speeches in history. The old gasbag Bill Clinton is still the champ by a smidge, though, it looks like.

[url]http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/sou_minutes.php[/url]


But what he gives up in length, Obama does his damnedest to make up for in depth...You really need your chest waders, and this speech was no exception.

Did you know Osama bin Laden is dead? That's basically all you need to know about the "violent extremism" thing, according to 0. Don't worry your pretty little head about it. I'm not even going to try to address the other areas you raise where Obama knows better than you do, LOL.

The whole show was so ridiculous I don't think I can write a single post about it, at least not one short enough to hold people's attention. :re: I might try to do it on a selected point here and there as the mood strikes me.

If anyone wants to play along at home, take a look at the transcript. I guarantee it will be less painful than watching the video.
6.) DParker - 01/13/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;38148]After trying to fool us with the idea that he WASN'T going to drone on and on, he managed to turn in one of the longest SOTU speeches in history.[/QUOTE]

Even the morning panel on NPR called him on that one (among other things).
7.) Swamp Fox - 01/13/2016
They had a lot of material to work with, LOL. Did they do any fact-checking on his economic or foreign policy success claims, etc?

A gargantuan task, I know...
8.) DParker - 01/13/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;38158]They had a lot of material to work with, LOL. Did they do any fact-checking on his economic or foreign policy success claims, etc?

A gargantuan task, I know...[/QUOTE]

I didn't hear any, but I only listened to half of the show. They did however touch on his continued refusal to accept blame for anything...and the fact that he seemed to be putting the audience to sleep toward the end.
9.) bluecat - 01/13/2016
I did tune in for a sec and was quickly reminded why even body posture makes a huge difference in presentation. The cocking of his head, the dramatic pauses, the slow whine while his chin elevates. (I know better than you, I told you so, you are so stupid) That's what it says to me even with the sound off.
10.) Swamp Fox - 01/13/2016
LOL...I always love his nose in the air...Makes me want to reach down there and tweak the little weasel....










Since it's a safe bet that whenever Obama states something as fact he's lying, misleading, misdirecting or just babbling, it always pays to fact-check him. Some of his golden oldies include the claims about his spectacular deficit-cutting, jobs creation and--of course--Obamacare successes, all of which made an appearance last night.

If I had to pick my two favorites from this most recent steaming pile (at least which haven't been completely worn out by now), I'd down a shot for his boast that we've added 900,000 manufacturing jobs, when we've LOST nearly a quarter of a million net during his tenure [[I]Obama similarly omitted part of his presidency in boasting of nearly 900,000 manufacturing jobs “in the past six years.” Over his entire time in office, manufacturing jobs have gone down by 230,000.--FactCheck.org[/I]]


and for this whopper: [I]"No nation attacks us directly or our allies because they know that’s the path to ruin. Surveys show our standing around the world is higher than when I was elected to this office..." [/I]This on the day that Iran captures 10 U.S. sailors, and most sane people who are paying attention are just as concerned about non-state bad guys, behind-the-scenes subterfuge from bad-actor states, and with cyber warfare as they are by the possibility of a frontal assault or muscle spasm by a North Korean fat boy.

Here are some other notes, if anyone's interested:

[url]http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/factchecking-the-state-of-the-union/[/url]

[url]http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/12/fact-check-state-of-the-union-2016/[/url]

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/01/12/fact-checking-the-2016-state-of-the-union-address/[/url]
11.) Jon - 01/13/2016
Just so Obama is aware, Delaware has a bigger military than Iran and they were able to capture 10 American sailors without even one round fired. Yea, I'm seeing how mighty other countrys think we are.
12.) Swamp Fox - 01/13/2016
LOL...

I hope we don't have to scuttle those boats now that they've been scoured by the Iranians...Think of the heart attacks we could cause among the mullahs after we turn them over to some civilian partyboat skipper and the Iranians tune in on the undetected spy gear to his first "Booze and Babes" cruise through the Florida Keys...:wink


13.) DParker - 01/13/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;38168]LOL...

I hope we don't have to scuttle those boats now that they've been scoured by the Iranians...Think of the heart attacks we could cause among the mullahs after we turn them over to some civilian partyboat skipper and the Iranians tune in on the undetected spy gear to his first "Booze and Babes" cruise through the Florida Keys...:wink


[/QUOTE]

You should book that cruise immediately. From what I understand the majority of male tourists in the Keys are gay, so you've got an instant competitive edge.
14.) Swamp Fox - 01/13/2016
LMAO...


I did not know that.


:laugh:
15.) bluecat - 01/13/2016
So Farah used to fish?
16.) Swamp Fox - 01/13/2016
17.) Swamp Fox - 01/13/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;38171]So Farah used to fish?[/QUOTE]

That she DID fish was the dream back in 1976...:-)


18.) DParker - 01/13/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;38171]So Farah used to fish?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;38173]That she DID fish was the dream back in 1976...:-)


[/QUOTE]

She was certainly using effective bait.
19.) bluecat - 01/14/2016
Well, there was bating going on...
20.) DParker - 01/14/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;38178]Well, there was bating going on...[/QUOTE]