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1.) Swamp Fox - 07/25/2017
Stumbled across this the other day while looking for a good cart for the bike. Wasn't having much luck finding a "zero weight on the handle" design like my old Warren & Sweat Pony or Mule, or whichever one I have. This comes close. I have my eye on something quite a bit more expensive that I've been wanting for a while, but this might have some advantages. Priced around $140.
2.) bluecat - 07/25/2017
Nice! Are those tires pneumatic?
3.) Wild Bob - 07/25/2017
Interesting. The proof would be in the pulling...I'd like to feel for myself it is goes over obstacles so easy.
My big Cabela's deluxe Game Cart pulls deer out pretty easily; so long as you're not going up a steep hill or over logs bigger that 4" +/- in diameter...Any time you've dealing with hills and larger obstructions, I'm not too convinced you can design any wheeled cart that will deal with those with ease!
I know several guys locally that have come to that conclusion as well and come up with a different design: they build carts with only one wheel (off a dirt bike) in the middle - so it is more like a cot with handles on each end and one centered wheel. They tell me it works really good so long as you have two guys on it. Supposedly the single wheel will go over obstacles and up hills as well as deal with rough, uneven terrain better. (Which is another complaint I have about my traditional style cart - rough pocked up terrain is almost as bad to negotiate as going over a bunch of dead fall logs (almost...LOL!) The single wheel concept makes some sense to me; one wheel is going to offer less resistance than two, or four for that matter... But anyway, I feel the same way about my friend's single wheel cart...I'll believe it's easier when I actually get a chance to try it out for myself!
My big Cabela's deluxe Game Cart pulls deer out pretty easily; so long as you're not going up a steep hill or over logs bigger that 4" +/- in diameter...Any time you've dealing with hills and larger obstructions, I'm not too convinced you can design any wheeled cart that will deal with those with ease!
I know several guys locally that have come to that conclusion as well and come up with a different design: they build carts with only one wheel (off a dirt bike) in the middle - so it is more like a cot with handles on each end and one centered wheel. They tell me it works really good so long as you have two guys on it. Supposedly the single wheel will go over obstacles and up hills as well as deal with rough, uneven terrain better. (Which is another complaint I have about my traditional style cart - rough pocked up terrain is almost as bad to negotiate as going over a bunch of dead fall logs (almost...LOL!) The single wheel concept makes some sense to me; one wheel is going to offer less resistance than two, or four for that matter... But anyway, I feel the same way about my friend's single wheel cart...I'll believe it's easier when I actually get a chance to try it out for myself!
4.) Swamp Fox - 07/25/2017
[QUOTE=bluecat;50347]Nice! Are those tires pneumatic?[/QUOTE]
No, thank goodness. They're filled with some type of fiber, if I recall correctly. So they're not the semi-annoying hard tires (wheels) either. Punctures shouldn't be an issue.
No, thank goodness. They're filled with some type of fiber, if I recall correctly. So they're not the semi-annoying hard tires (wheels) either. Punctures shouldn't be an issue.
5.) Swamp Fox - 07/25/2017
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;50351]Interesting. The proof would be in the pulling...I'd like to feel for myself it is goes over obstacles so easy.
My big Cabela's deluxe Game Cart pulls deer out pretty easily; so long as you're not going up a steep hill or over logs bigger that 4" +/- in diameter...Any time you've dealing with hills and larger obstructions, I'm not too convinced you can design any wheeled cart that will deal with those with ease!
I know several guys locally that have come to that conclusion as well and come up with a different design: they build carts with only one wheel (off a dirt bike) in the middle - so it is more like a cot with handles on each end and one centered wheel. They tell me it works really good so long as you have two guys on it. Supposedly the single wheel will go over obstacles and up hills as well as deal with rough, uneven terrain better. (Which is another complaint I have about my traditional style cart - rough pocked up terrain is almost as bad to negotiate as going over a bunch of dead fall logs (almost...LOL!) The single wheel concept makes some sense to me; one wheel is going to offer less resistance than two, or four for that matter... But anyway, I feel the same way about my friend's single wheel cart...I'll believe it's easier when I actually get a chance to try it out for myself![/QUOTE]
I looked at single wheel carts a bunch of years ago. There was even one with brakes, which I could have used at the time. If I can find some pics I might have saved, or a website, I'll let you know.
My big Cabela's deluxe Game Cart pulls deer out pretty easily; so long as you're not going up a steep hill or over logs bigger that 4" +/- in diameter...Any time you've dealing with hills and larger obstructions, I'm not too convinced you can design any wheeled cart that will deal with those with ease!
I know several guys locally that have come to that conclusion as well and come up with a different design: they build carts with only one wheel (off a dirt bike) in the middle - so it is more like a cot with handles on each end and one centered wheel. They tell me it works really good so long as you have two guys on it. Supposedly the single wheel will go over obstacles and up hills as well as deal with rough, uneven terrain better. (Which is another complaint I have about my traditional style cart - rough pocked up terrain is almost as bad to negotiate as going over a bunch of dead fall logs (almost...LOL!) The single wheel concept makes some sense to me; one wheel is going to offer less resistance than two, or four for that matter... But anyway, I feel the same way about my friend's single wheel cart...I'll believe it's easier when I actually get a chance to try it out for myself![/QUOTE]
I looked at single wheel carts a bunch of years ago. There was even one with brakes, which I could have used at the time. If I can find some pics I might have saved, or a website, I'll let you know.
6.) DParker - 07/25/2017
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;50351]My big Cabela's deluxe Game Cart pulls deer out pretty easily; so long as you're not going up a steep hill or over logs bigger that 4" +/- in diameter...Any time you've dealing with hills and larger obstructions, I'm not too convinced you can design any wheeled cart that will deal with those with ease![/QUOTE]
I solved that problem by bringing along a healthy 24 year-old son.
I solved that problem by bringing along a healthy 24 year-old son.
7.) Swamp Fox - 07/25/2017
These are the two I was looking hardest at back in the day. The Carry-All Buddy (first pic) was already out of production, but rumors persisted of ways to get one.
[url]http://www.neetkart.com/[/url]
The NeetKart needed brakes for my purposes (unavailable), so I never pulled the trigger, and simply made some mods to my trusty Warren and Sweat. Still haven't gotten around to inventing a brake system for it, which might be impossible now, considering the wheels I put on it.
This site has a good rundown on various carts. A little old, and there's some new stuff out there, but decent nonetheless.
[url]http://gametote.com/one-wheel-game-cart-review.html[/url]
They sell this one, which is the one I would lean towards today, if I needed such a thing:
[url]http://www.neetkart.com/[/url]
The NeetKart needed brakes for my purposes (unavailable), so I never pulled the trigger, and simply made some mods to my trusty Warren and Sweat. Still haven't gotten around to inventing a brake system for it, which might be impossible now, considering the wheels I put on it.
This site has a good rundown on various carts. A little old, and there's some new stuff out there, but decent nonetheless.
[url]http://gametote.com/one-wheel-game-cart-review.html[/url]
They sell this one, which is the one I would lean towards today, if I needed such a thing:
8.) Swamp Fox - 07/25/2017
This might be the most interesting of the other one-wheel options, and it's much more stowable, even packable. Good and interesting review from an actual hunt:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL76069A6D971DF3F9&v=z2Q0aucocCY[/url]
[url]www.packwheel.com[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL76069A6D971DF3F9&v=z2Q0aucocCY[/url]
[url]www.packwheel.com[/url]
9.) bluecat - 07/26/2017
The one-wheel carts look unstable. Is that true?
10.) DParker - 07/26/2017
[QUOTE=bluecat;50374]The one-wheel carts look unstable. Is that true?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but if the user is unstable too they cancel each other out and the system as a whole becomes stable. It's just like how multiplying two negative numbers produces a positive number. Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, but if the user is unstable too they cancel each other out and the system as a whole becomes stable. It's just like how multiplying two negative numbers produces a positive number. Yeah, that's it.
11.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
Apparently you have to do some balancing of the load, but they've been around a long time. You'd think that if they were unworkable they'd have vanished from the face of the earth. I guess if the design makes it relatively simple to place the weight in the middle and above the wheel, your ability to screw things up is minimized.
For me, the big mystery would be loading them. Lay the cart on the ground and roll the weight into or onto the cradle? I'd like to see how the cow elk got done, LOL.
For me, the big mystery would be loading them. Lay the cart on the ground and roll the weight into or onto the cradle? I'd like to see how the cow elk got done, LOL.
12.) luv2bowhunt - 07/26/2017
We had a one wheel cart at deer camp for years. We only used it with 2 men, one on each end. Was a pain to try and do by yourself. The new 2 wheel carts are so much better for deer.
13.) bluecat - 07/26/2017
[QUOTE=DParker;50375]Yeah, but if the user is unstable too they cancel each other out and the system as a whole becomes stable. It's just like how multiplying two negative numbers produces a positive number. Yeah, that's it.[/QUOTE]
I think what I was saying was, "Can you hold your beer in one hand while operating heavy machinery with the other?" And I'm not talking bout taking a leak.
I think what I was saying was, "Can you hold your beer in one hand while operating heavy machinery with the other?" And I'm not talking bout taking a leak.
14.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
LOL....
Take a look at the small photo on this page of two people on their Rambo bikes with cart attachment. I couldn't figure out a way to embed or link directly, but that's not important right now.
Tell me the guy doesn't look like Dan-o. :-)
[url]https://rambobikes.com/product/r180-bike-cart/[/url]
Take a look at the small photo on this page of two people on their Rambo bikes with cart attachment. I couldn't figure out a way to embed or link directly, but that's not important right now.
Tell me the guy doesn't look like Dan-o. :-)
[url]https://rambobikes.com/product/r180-bike-cart/[/url]
15.) luv2bowhunt - 07/26/2017
You mean the pic of Ralph & Vicki?
16.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
The thing I like about the Crawler cart is it looks like it rides well on a bike (plus the four-wheel design). I bet I would have a hell of time getting the balance right with my Cabela's cart, plus it has those hard wheels. Not sure pulling it wouldn't be a disaster and tear up my bike's less-than-bombproof cargo rack. My W&S cart has open handles, is very narrow and has no side bars, so that's out from the get-go.
17.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
Is that who that is? See, I don't watch hunting TV either, lol.
18.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
Okay, they don't look THAT much alike...But a little, yes?
And it's a good thing he's paired up with Vickie or I'd have never found him on Google. Couldn't spell his last name for the life of me, LOL
And it's a good thing he's paired up with Vickie or I'd have never found him on Google. Couldn't spell his last name for the life of me, LOL
19.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
I went looking for some pics of Dan-o on here but he was using Photobucket for his pics, so they're all gone now.
What are the chances Photobucket knew they were going to screw up millions of posts all over the internet by cutting the cord to existing links, and went ahead and did it anyway?
What are the chances Photobucket knew they were going to screw up millions of posts all over the internet by cutting the cord to existing links, and went ahead and did it anyway?
20.) bluecat - 07/26/2017
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;50387]
What are the chances Photobucket knew they were going to screw up millions of posts all over the internet by cutting the cord to existing links, and went ahead and did it anyway?[/QUOTE]
LOL!
What are the chances Photobucket knew they were going to screw up millions of posts all over the internet by cutting the cord to existing links, and went ahead and did it anyway?[/QUOTE]
LOL!
21.) Wild Bob - 07/26/2017
The home made versions that I've seen look a lot like the picture of that fist one in the line up you posted Swamp Fox (the carry-all)...
The beauty or real advantage as I see it and hear from the guys that I know that use their home made versions is the ability to negotiate the side hills and rough ground...which makes sense to me, as those are the areas where I struggle with my two wheeled version. A brake is a necessity on them from what I've heard, or you'll wear the front guy out trying to go down hill.
That Pack Wheel is pretty interesting, I'd like to see one up close and push a load on it to see if it is as easy as they claim. But I don't want to invest that kind of money just to see it's better than my current Game cart.
After re-looking at that new cart that started this discussion...I am intrigued by the individually pivoting sides of the rear wheels. If you think about it (and I know that Luv2 will associate with what I'm trying to comment on here) that set up is exactly what makes the new style of Articulated off road tandem trucks work so well. (As compared to the older style rear dumps...memory lane for ya Luv 2: the first OR dump I drove back when I was a young'in was an early 50's R-24 Euclid; all I remember was having a pounding headache every night when I got home from listening to that dam Detroit roar and scream all day long!)
Anyway, those pivoting rears would probably be an improvement for going over obstacles, but I still think you would need the power end of the equation covered to get over limbs, rocks, and uneven terrain.
The beauty or real advantage as I see it and hear from the guys that I know that use their home made versions is the ability to negotiate the side hills and rough ground...which makes sense to me, as those are the areas where I struggle with my two wheeled version. A brake is a necessity on them from what I've heard, or you'll wear the front guy out trying to go down hill.
That Pack Wheel is pretty interesting, I'd like to see one up close and push a load on it to see if it is as easy as they claim. But I don't want to invest that kind of money just to see it's better than my current Game cart.
After re-looking at that new cart that started this discussion...I am intrigued by the individually pivoting sides of the rear wheels. If you think about it (and I know that Luv2 will associate with what I'm trying to comment on here) that set up is exactly what makes the new style of Articulated off road tandem trucks work so well. (As compared to the older style rear dumps...memory lane for ya Luv 2: the first OR dump I drove back when I was a young'in was an early 50's R-24 Euclid; all I remember was having a pounding headache every night when I got home from listening to that dam Detroit roar and scream all day long!)
Anyway, those pivoting rears would probably be an improvement for going over obstacles, but I still think you would need the power end of the equation covered to get over limbs, rocks, and uneven terrain.
22.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
Side hills...Yes.
23.) luv2bowhunt - 07/26/2017
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;50389] (As compared to the older style rear dumps...memory lane for ya Luv 2: the first OR dump I drove back when I was a young'in was an early 50's R-24 Euclid; all I remember was having a pounding headache every night when I got home from listening to that dam Detroit roar and scream all day long!)
Anyway, those pivoting rears would probably be an improvement for going over obstacles, but I still think you would need the power end of the equation covered to get over limbs, rocks, and uneven terrain.[/QUOTE]
Today's equipment is light years ahead of the stuff we had when I first started out 30 years ago. Air conditioning, automated suspensions, power steering, all for around $60.00/hr., compared to the $6.00/hr I started out with. But yes, that cart would be fun to try out.
If I had Swampy's money I'd take the plunge. What the heck does he spend it on anyway? Not houses, cars, or women. Must be drugs or cat food.
Anyway, those pivoting rears would probably be an improvement for going over obstacles, but I still think you would need the power end of the equation covered to get over limbs, rocks, and uneven terrain.[/QUOTE]
Today's equipment is light years ahead of the stuff we had when I first started out 30 years ago. Air conditioning, automated suspensions, power steering, all for around $60.00/hr., compared to the $6.00/hr I started out with. But yes, that cart would be fun to try out.
If I had Swampy's money I'd take the plunge. What the heck does he spend it on anyway? Not houses, cars, or women. Must be drugs or cat food.
24.) Wild Bob - 07/26/2017
"Today's equipment is light years ahead of the stuff we had when I first started out 30 years ago. Air conditioning, automated suspensions, power steering, all for around $60.00/hr., compared to the $6.00/hr I started out with."
You ain't kidding. It kills me to listen to some of these guys (drivers and operators) today complain about the 'junk' they have to work with. It's funny, that company I worked for in the late 80's took care of their equipment and trucks. They had a bunch of those old 50's era rear dump Eucs that we ran. They even had an old early 60's model B61 Mack (tandem dump) that was the first on road truck I learned to drive. It had the split rear end with dual shift levers, not the flip switch...I bet ya $100 bucks you'd be hard pressed to find a CDL driver today that could even operate that truck correctly!
My old Foreman at the time would yell at me every time I got in that rig! He'd holler at me while he spit his chew all over the front of his shirt, "Just get in that Gauuudd DAMMM truck and run it man! You get in there and you look like a dam pilot doing a sum-bitchin' pre-flight instrument check!" - I was just trying to take care of it and make sure my air pressure built up fully before I released the brakes...LOL. Ah, the old days.
You ain't kidding. It kills me to listen to some of these guys (drivers and operators) today complain about the 'junk' they have to work with. It's funny, that company I worked for in the late 80's took care of their equipment and trucks. They had a bunch of those old 50's era rear dump Eucs that we ran. They even had an old early 60's model B61 Mack (tandem dump) that was the first on road truck I learned to drive. It had the split rear end with dual shift levers, not the flip switch...I bet ya $100 bucks you'd be hard pressed to find a CDL driver today that could even operate that truck correctly!
My old Foreman at the time would yell at me every time I got in that rig! He'd holler at me while he spit his chew all over the front of his shirt, "Just get in that Gauuudd DAMMM truck and run it man! You get in there and you look like a dam pilot doing a sum-bitchin' pre-flight instrument check!" - I was just trying to take care of it and make sure my air pressure built up fully before I released the brakes...LOL. Ah, the old days.
25.) luv2bowhunt - 07/26/2017
:applause: Yea, those old timers were great. Most of ours have all died off and now we got the new breed, the ones that will quit if you so much as raise your voice to them.
26.) Wild Bob - 07/26/2017
Did you just yell at me Gerry?!? Don't you yell at me Gerry! LOL.
I hear you...I spend way more time dealing with managing 'ME' issues associated with our millennials and centennials and dealing with the whole generational age gap than I want to!
I had a 62 year old operator ticked off the other day because he had to get in the ditch and show a 'highly qualified' and well trained 20 something how to dig with a shovel. The poor guy was utterly and amazingly shocked when he told me about the situation. It reminded me of a scene out of 'No Country for Old Men,' the scene where Tommy Lee and that other old Sheriff are talking about the differences between their younger days on the job vs. current day in the movie. But instead of talking about the off the wall craziness of criminals like in the movie, our conversation went like this, "You ever heard of such a thing? I mean really, (as my operator shook his head in utter disgust) a young, strong man in his prime that doesn't even KNOW how to dig with a shovel? What's this world coming to? It's pathetic, just dam pathetic I tell you."
I hear you...I spend way more time dealing with managing 'ME' issues associated with our millennials and centennials and dealing with the whole generational age gap than I want to!
I had a 62 year old operator ticked off the other day because he had to get in the ditch and show a 'highly qualified' and well trained 20 something how to dig with a shovel. The poor guy was utterly and amazingly shocked when he told me about the situation. It reminded me of a scene out of 'No Country for Old Men,' the scene where Tommy Lee and that other old Sheriff are talking about the differences between their younger days on the job vs. current day in the movie. But instead of talking about the off the wall craziness of criminals like in the movie, our conversation went like this, "You ever heard of such a thing? I mean really, (as my operator shook his head in utter disgust) a young, strong man in his prime that doesn't even KNOW how to dig with a shovel? What's this world coming to? It's pathetic, just dam pathetic I tell you."
27.) DParker - 07/26/2017
[QUOTE=Wild Bob;50401]I had a 62 year old operator ticked off the other day because he had to get in the ditch and show a 'highly qualified' and well trained 20 something how to dig with a shovel. The poor guy was utterly and amazingly shocked when he told me about the situation. It reminded me of a scene out of 'No Country for Old Men,' the scene where Tommy Lee and that other old Sheriff are talking about the differences between their younger days on the job vs. current day in the movie. But instead of talking about the off the wall craziness of criminals like in the movie, our conversation went like this, "You ever heard of such a thing? I mean really, (as my operator shook his head in utter disgust) a young, strong man in his prime that doesn't even KNOW how to dig with a shovel? What's this world coming to? It's pathetic, just dam pathetic I tell you."[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;ZfQ8WZTX_mA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfQ8WZTX_mA[/video]
[video=youtube;ZfQ8WZTX_mA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfQ8WZTX_mA[/video]
28.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
[On the phone]I know what a lug wrench looks like, Dad!
[Whispering] Is this a lug wrench?
[Whispering] Is this a lug wrench?
29.) Swamp Fox - 07/26/2017
This is my chance to post this again...LOL
30.) bluecat - 07/26/2017
I remember the days before auto-refresh when you had to press the 'New Posts' link every time you wanted to see a new post...