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1.) DParker - 09/17/2021
[URL="https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/kentucky-hunter-kills-record-buck/"]57-pointer in KY[/URL]

2.) Swamp Fox - 09/17/2021
LOL .... Drama ....

I miss those days on here ....

[url]https://kyoutdoorstv.com/did-this-kentucky-hunter-fool-everyone/[/url]
3.) bluecat - 09/17/2021
[QUOTE]Upon further review, and after a multitude of messages, we found that Settle actually used the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife telecheck system to check the buck in as if it were harvested in Henderson County. As a matter of fact, Settle checked two male deer in for Henderson County. Kentucky is a one buck state, but itís possible he harvested an antlerless male. [/QUOTE]

Sure, that all sounds likely. First he miscounted the number of deer harvested (thought it was one when it was actually two - forgot about the other one in his game pouch) and also harvested an anterless buck.

Missed a nice broadside shot at a unicorn and met up with Catherine Zeta-Jones for a game of Yahtzee.
4.) bluecat - 09/17/2021
And I guarantee you the game farm knows every point on that buck mapped if they [B]really [/B]wanted a positive id. I'm sure it had an endearing name too, like Mr. Squiggles.
5.) bluecat - 09/17/2021
Edit feature is not working on many of the posts. No text shows up for editing.
6.) DParker - 09/17/2021
So..a hunter who turns out to be a lying sack of crap. Stop the presses.
7.) bluecat - 09/17/2021
Leave Hunter Biden out of this please. This is an archery forum.
8.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2021
This is my favorite comment on the episode so far, from the Kentucky outdoorsTV site:

[QUOTE]Derek is a jerk and should never be aloud to hunt in KY[/QUOTE]
9.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2021
Think of the poor[I] Field & Stream[/I] schlub who rushed to publish based on a check report, an interview with the hero and a "confident" feeling that the story was true...

This tale was completely wrecked in less than 24 hours.

Nice SEO links and product plugs, though, [I]Field & Stream[/I]. :re:
10.) DParker - 09/18/2021
They're practically CNN.
11.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2021
LOL ...


Maybe getting there... It's a strong tide in journalism these days.
12.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2021
[QUOTE][QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64717]This is my favorite comment on the episode so far, from the Kentucky outdoorsTV site:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Derek is a jerk and should never be aloud to hunt in KY[/QUOTE]

[/QUOTE]


Teachers R hour heros ...
13.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2021
On the other hand, this story does not involve multiple murders, homosexuality, oxycodone, a Southern hunting lodge, and conspiratorial lawyers ...

So I rate it at just an 85, because it does have a good beat and you can dance to it.
14.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2021
But again, it lacks that certain something ...
15.) Swamp Fox - 09/22/2021
Although it does not lack for mental illness, retardation, cognitive dissonance and sock puppets ...

Peruse the comments at your own risk:

[QUOTE]Update:

[url]https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/new-evidence-derek-settle-buck-story/[/url][/QUOTE]
16.) Swamp Fox - 09/22/2021
[QUOTE]RedFlower
1 day ago

Seems like Sage Marshall should be fired ��

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Risky
16 hours ago

Replying to Guest
Seems like Field and Stream should provide your IP address (they can see it, you know) to the KYDFWR investigation as it's obvious you're Derek, himself. It'll make it much harder to convince them this was all just a big misunderstanding when you're trying to anonymously start trouble on here.

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RedFlower
15 hours ago

Replying to Risky
Freedom of Speech! God Bless Merica!

Reply[/QUOTE] .....



[url]https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/new-evidence-derek-settle-buck-story/[/url]
17.) bluecat - 09/22/2021
I like how he immediately played the victim card. Well done!
18.) DParker - 09/22/2021
There is no corner of the internet that is free from scumbags and their middle school drama.
19.) Swamp Fox - 09/22/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64750]I like how he immediately played the victim card. Well done![/QUOTE]

Exactamundo!
20.) Swamp Fox - 09/22/2021


[QUOTE]
September 17: We called Settle for a comment about the evidence supplied by Patoka River Whitetails. He replied via text message and asked that we use his words exactly as he texted them to us:


“My comment is that yal got the information all wrong about the locations. The KYfwl Conservation was contacted Sunday morning on the 12th to delete the entry on the Ky Harvest Site. Weather or not it has updated or not is out of my hands. Obviously the pictures of my buck had previously been leaked on social media throughout the week, even though I never posted it. My point is that the fake news media is at a all time high and dying for a story without fact checking the information before publishing their articles. And now I to am a victim of this. On the record. That’s my response.

“I made the entry into Ky telecheck by mistake, thinking it was required in order to transport the Cape into ky. Which I immediately realized was not required after checking on the KYFWL website. Therefore attempting to contact KSP and Ky Conservation to delete the entry. Which I couldn’t do until the following morning. 9-12-2021. On the record. Please use my words exactly as they are. And I’d appreciate no further contact.”[/QUOTE]


[url]https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/new-evidence-derek-settle-buck-story/[/url]
21.) Swamp Fox - 09/22/2021
I have never met a hunter or fisherman dumb enough to think that a kill or catch from a different state qualifies as a record in his own state. And I've met a lot of dumb hunters and fishermen in my life.

But this is where we're headed with this tale, I reckon.

Moral of the story: I'm still a young man, and I ain't seen nothin' yet ... :wink



22.) Swamp Fox - 09/22/2021
LOL .... :wave:
23.) Swamp Fox - 09/24/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64755][/QUOTE]


[url]https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/new-evidence-derek-settle-buck-story/[/url]
24.) Swamp Fox - 09/28/2021
[B][I][COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=2]Field & Stream Reports On Their Own Shit Journalism[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B]

[QUOTE]
Update: New Revelations Come Out About Derek Settle’s 57-Point Whitetail Buck
High fence operation provides evidence that Settle arrowed the buck at their preserve in Indiana

BY MATTHEW EVERY , SAGE MARSHALL | UPDATED SEP 21, 2021 7:53 AM

...

Last week, when Field & Stream published a story about a huge 280-plus-inch whitetail buck that Derek Settle said he shot in Henderson County, Kentucky, on September 11, 2021, we expected the comments crying out that the buck was a “high fence” deer—like we usually see when posting stories about large non-typicals. (Pen-raised deer have more opportunity to grow huge racks because they live in a controlled environment). However, In the last few years, hunters have killed several wild deer that broke the 300-inch mark, so a wild buck of this caliber was not at all out of the question. Settle also claimed to have taken the deer in a part of Kentucky that is known for big bucks.


What we did not expect when we published the story, however, were claims from the owners of a high-fence hunting preserve alerting us that Settle’s buck was, in fact, taken on their property—in another state. After learning this, we quickly addressed the development with an editor’s note to the original story, and to the post on our Facebook page, explaining the situation and vowing to update readers as soon as we learned more. Well, we’ve learned more.

A Timeline of the Derek Settle Buck
September 9: Patoka River Whitetails posted a photo of Settle with the buck at their preserve. We had no knowledge of this post or any other pictures of Settle with the buck aside from the ones he shared directly with us.

September 11: Settle entered a private-land buck into the Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources (KDFWR) Telecheck System indicating the deer was taken in Henderson County, Kentucky, with a crossbow. High-fence preserve hunts are not telechecked in the state. The KDFWR Telecheck Review shows that Settle also entered what appears to be the same a buck on September 13. The second buck did not appear in our initial pre-publication fact-check on Settle’s buck, which took place earlier in the day on September 13.
Kentucky telecheck screen shot.
A screenshot of the Kentucky Telecheck with two entries from Settle. This screenshot was taken on September 17, 2021. Sage Marshall
September 13: Settle reached out to F&S about his buck via Facebook.
screenshot of facebook conversation.
A screenshot of our Facebook conversation with Settle. Matthew Every
Later on September 13, Settle sent F&S photos of the buck he claimed to have killed on his property in Henderson County, Kentucky, and communicated with us via email. Before we interviewed Settle, we confirmed that he had telechecked a buck in Kentucky. We then conducted a phone interview with Settle, who told a compelling story about a DIY-style hunt that he said took place at his property in Kentucky. We pressed Settle on the type of property where the hunt took place, and he was adamant that it took place at his 5-acre plot in Henderson County. After the interview, we felt confident about the authenticity of Settle’s retelling of the hunt and began to write the story. We gave Settle the opportunity to review the story for accuracy before publication.
screenshot of email.
This email correspondence between Settle and Field & Stream News Editor Sage Marshall shows where Settle claimed he arrowed the buck and how he felt it could be a Kentucky record. Sage Marshall
September 15: After we published our story on Settle’s buck and shared a link to the story on our Facebook page, Ryan Neuhoff, a part-owner of Patoka River Whitetails, a family-owned high-fence deer preserve in Dubois, Indiana, reached out to us about the deer. He provided us with documentation that showed that Settle had taken a deer dubbed “White 352” at their operation on September 9. The evidence Neuhof shared included Settle’s special hunting permit for hunting preserves and transportation tag that had been filed with the Indiana State Board of Animal Health. Patoka River Whitetails also sent us two previously unseen photos of the deer: one of the buck in a soybean field on their property, and the other of Settle posing with the buck’s rack at a Patoka River Whitetails lodge. (Settle is also wearing a Patoka River Whitetails hat in the photograph.)
A big buck stands in the middle of a soybean field
Patoka River Whitetails sent us this previously unshared photo of “White 352,” the trophy buck that Derek Settle would later harvest. Patoka River Whitetails
Documents on a table
Documents that record Settle’s hunt at Patoka River Whitetails provided to F&S by Patoka River Whitetails. Patoka River Whitetails
September 16: Patoka River Whitetails released this official comment on the situation:

“Patoka River Whitetails is a family-owned and operated farm, and this situation really hit us hard. We are all avid hunters ourselves and believe there is nothing better than the freedom that we feel while in the woods. This freedom is what Patoka River Whitetails was built on—providing hunters the opportunity to feel as if they are right at home while hunting. We operate as a family and treat our hunters as if they are our own family. Seeing the original article took us by surprise. It’s unfortunate that these things happen and drag businesses and hobbies down in the mix of it. We appreciate all the kind words regarding our preserve and appreciate all of those who brought it to our attention. While it is unfortunate that Mr. Settle chose to falsify his harvest with us, we still congratulate him on his buck of a lifetime.”

September 17: We called Settle for a comment about the evidence supplied by Patoka River Whitetails. He replied via text message and asked that we use his words exactly as he texted them to us:
“My comment is that yal got the information all wrong about the locations. The KYfwl Conservation was contacted Sunday morning on the 12th to delete the entry on the Ky Harvest Site. Weather or not it has updated or not is out of my hands. Obviously the pictures of my buck had previously been leaked on social media throughout the week, even though I never posted it. My point is that the fake news media is at a all time high and dying for a story without fact checking the information before publishing their articles. And now I to am a victim of this. On the record. That’s my response.

“I made the entry into Ky telecheck by mistake, thinking it was required in order to transport the Cape into ky. Which I immediately realized was not required after checking on the KYFWL website. Therefore attempting to contact KSP and Ky Conservation to delete the entry. Which I couldn’t do until the following morning. 9-12-2021. On the record. Please use my words exactly as they are. And I’d appreciate no further contact.”

An Investigation Into the Settle Buck Is Underway
The KDFWR law enforcement division is aware of and currently investigating the incident. Kentucky Administrative Regulation 2:172 (9) prohibits a person from knowingly entering false information into the Telecheck System. As of right now, it’s unclear if Settle could be charged with any other violations. KDFWR will not comment on any ongoing investigations.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]

We will continue to report on this developing story.[/B] [LOL] [/QUOTE]


[url]https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/new-evidence-derek-settle-buck-story/[/url]
25.) Swamp Fox - 09/28/2021
You might be able to get this one-source shit through in a high school newsletter ....
26.) Swamp Fox - 09/28/2021
Your faculty advisor would have to be a drunk, though, or had something else to hide....
27.) bluecat - 09/28/2021
[QUOTE]

GreenPin
Sounds like he took 1 for the team to get his story out and give a dedication to his dad. I'm sure he needed this hunting trip after losing him this year. Buck or not.
He was able to expose the unchecked fake news media for what it is, and maybe shed some light on the gray area within the KYDFWL telecheck system and out of state transportation.
No shame in that game.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]I think that every single person in the world makes mistakes, and falls short. Some make very bad ones, and others not so much. I myself know I've made plenty. And it's guaranteed that I'm not done. So maybe it all was a mistake? Then again maybe he did lie about the events, and made a very bad call...See more



GreenPin
21 September, 2021
Replying to Robert White

Freedom of Speech! Well said sir[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]GreenPin
I mean what's the crime here? Wasting $ on a Ky buck tag?[/QUOTE]

There are some stupid people involved in this story.
28.) bluecat - 09/28/2021
[QUOTE]Constant Gardener
21 September, 2021
Replying to Guest

"Dear Dad, I dedicate the lie I told Field & Stream to you." I mean, I guess if he despised his father...[/QUOTE]

and some funny ones.
29.) DParker - 09/28/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64783]There are some stupid people involved in this story.[/QUOTE]

If I were a betting man I'd say those posts are from a sock puppet of the guy who shot the deer.
30.) Swamp Fox - 09/29/2021
This is one of the most incontinent frauds someone from Kentucky has ever perpetuitied...
31.) Swamp Fox - 09/29/2021
And Field & Stream takes the hit ...
32.) Swamp Fox - 09/29/2021
[B][I]Field & Stream[/I][/B]: [I]We expected comments from readers that this must be a high-fence deer ...[/I]
[B]
Also [I]Field & Stream[/I][/B]: [I]What we didn't expect was to receive evidence that this was a high-fence deer...

[/I]
:duh::groan::dig:
33.) bluecat - 09/29/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64786]This is one of the most incontinent frauds someone from Kentucky has ever perpetuitied...[/QUOTE]

I see what you did there.
34.) Swamp Fox - 10/11/2021
I'm not buying a [I]Field & Stream[/I] magazine again until they straighten this out and get their act together ....






Wait... I haven't bought a F&S magazine in prolly fifteen years ...




:bang:
35.) bluecat - 10/11/2021
If you don't buy Field and Stream, where are you going to find out about that stay-at-home business stuffing envelopes and the right camo pattern according to Dave Blanton.
36.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64936]If you don't buy Field and Stream, where are you going to find out about that stay-at-home business stuffing envelopes and the right camo pattern according to Dave Blanton.[/QUOTE]


Well, strangely enough, I'm offered a lot of great business opportunities like that all the time, but I figure the ones involving shrimp have been done ...


As far as camo goes, I'm a Natgear guy, and that's all I have to say about that ...
37.) bluecat - 10/12/2021
I love Natgear, but it's not easy to find...
38.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2021
I have a shit-ton of it, but I can't share because all of y'all are a lot fatter than I am .... :nk:
39.) Swamp Fox - 10/12/2021
Well, I know that at least CrOokEDeYe is ... But I have my suspicions about the rest of you .... :wink
40.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64945]I have a shit-ton of it, but I can't share because all of y'all are a lot fatter than I am .... :nk:[/QUOTE]

Fat or well-marbled?
41.) DParker - 10/13/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64950]Fat or well-marbled?[/QUOTE]

I'm A5 Wagyu.
42.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
I'm about a B2 but I'm working on it.
43.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
LOL ...
44.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64952]I'm about a B2 but I'm working on it.[/QUOTE]


Well, that's a coinkydink! ...... I'm working on a tasteful cannibalism joke ....
45.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
tasteful or tasty?
46.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
Do you think Luv2 will ever recover from his opening day last year and join us again?
47.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64956]Do you think Luv2 will ever recover from his opening day last year and join us again?[/QUOTE]

I was just thinking about that the other day... I'd say he's a goner, pinin' for the fjords ...

Maybe we can find a replacement in Bolton ...
48.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
bolton or notlob?
49.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
No, that's not gonna work.

Luv2 is irreplaceable ...


What's even worse is that I've found a connection between him, Ichabod Crane, and my great-great grandmother's plundered silverware, and now I'll never be able to confront him about it ...
50.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64959]

Luv2 is irreplaceable ...


[/QUOTE]

Irreplaceable or irrelevant?
51.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
I would like to confront him about it ... :wink
52.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
confront or console?
53.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64960]Irreplaceable or irrelevant?[/QUOTE]

Ooof! That's harsh.

We could all (each ...LOL) disappear tomorrow.

I believe I could lure Luv2 out into the open by pretending to know about Hessian grave sites from the Revolutionary War ...I know he is looking for his ancestor, Johann "No Neck" Knymphausen ...
54.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64962]confront or console?[/QUOTE]


No, it was good silverware for its time ...


Not sure if you should use a Chef's Choice on it, though ...
55.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
Ah, just having some fun with the little fella.

He's gone to lick his wounds. He'll be back to complain about how no one posts.
56.) bluecat - 10/13/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64963]

I believe I could lure Luv2 out into the open by pretending to know about Hessian grave sites from the Revolutionary War ...I know he is looking for his ancestor, Johann "No Neck" Knymphausen ...[/QUOTE]

You always want to start with the last place you saw him.
57.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
I'd have to use a fake name and avatar ...


I'm afraid to ask, but any suggestions? :dig::shocked:
58.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2021
I was thinkin' about [B]Big Fat Dutch Gal[/B] but I haven't found my avatar yet ...
59.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
You would have to consider avatar dimensions for that name as it would demand a full screen. A thumbnail might just get part of a thigh.
60.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64968]I was thinkin' about [B]Big Fat Dutch Gal[/B] but I haven't found my avatar yet ...[/QUOTE]

I can send you a pic of my wife if you want. I've got a picture of her wrestling down at the local bar that would just be perfect.
61.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
What have the Dutch ever done for us?
62.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64968]I was thinkin' about [B]Big Fat Dutch Gal[/B] but I haven't found my avatar yet ...[/QUOTE]

You might google 'Dutch Plus'
63.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64969]You would have to consider avatar dimensions for that name as it would demand a full screen. A thumbnail might just get part of a thigh.[/QUOTE]

[Note to self: Create fake account called [B]BZ-II[/B] or some such ([B]BZ Aye-aye[/B] ??---Give this more thought ...) Claim to have forgotten password. Case sensitive? Old member, welcomed back. Reply quote to bluecat's thigh comment with Austin Powers' "Yeah, baby" gif ---Also, look up why sailors say aye-aye, when just one aye would do. (Ref. many pirates, per history, duh...) ]
64.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
You're a busy man.
65.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64970]I can send you a pic of my wife if you want. I've got a picture of her wrestling down at the local bar that would just be perfect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
Gentleman 1: Sir, do you have any naked pictures of your wife?

Gentleman 2: Of course not, Sir!

Gentleman 1 [reaching in to his pocket]: Would you like to see some? [/QUOTE] ....
66.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64970]I can send you a pic of my wife if you want. I've got a picture of her wrestling down at the local bar that would just be perfect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
Gentleman 1: Sir, do you have any naked pictures of your wife?

Gentleman 2: Of course not, Sir!

Gentleman 1 [reaching in to his pocket]: Would you like to see some? [/QUOTE] ....
67.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64974]You're a busy man.[/QUOTE]


I have a lot on my mind ...
68.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2021
LOL ...


69.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
....
70.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64970]I can send you a pic of my wife if you want. I've got a picture of her wrestling down at the local bar that would just be perfect.[/QUOTE]

I've got several pics you can choose from.

One of the pics she's holding a guy over her head and is about to throw him through the front window a'la Road House.

Another pic she's in cuffs and being lead away from an altercation. Your choice but I'd go with the former.

She's a real peach when she's had her medications. She's Dutch and a big thick gal.
71.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;64978]LOL ...


[/QUOTE]

Nice Frame...lol
72.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2021
[QUOTE=bluecat;64979]....[/QUOTE]



LOL ... +11
73.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2021
"I don't know about you, but I came here to get away from all the silliness ..."


74.) bluecat - 10/14/2021
No you didn't, you came here to get away from all the silliness.
75.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2021
That's not an argument ...
76.) bluecat - 10/15/2021
Yes it is.
77.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2021
I wonder when [I]Field & Stream [/I]is going to get around to "updating" their update, which pretty much points to them needing to issue a statement along the lines of

[QUOTE]At this time, it looks like we may have rushed to publication without all the facts and without even bothering to apply a healthy skepticism to our invested primary source, who was also our *only* source, which is a Basic Bozo No-No of Journalism with a capital F.

We regret the error, and hereby increase our payment scale 300% for actual journalists and old-school outdoor writers, freelance or staff, and pledge to hire actual editors if we can locate any.

We will also remove most current staff writers and other under-invested "content providers" to the deepest recesses of the basement, where the internet connection is spotty, and that's okay. [/QUOTE]