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1.) DParker - 05/06/2014
But one (perhaps the only) benefit of getting older is that I just don't care anymore. After being bombarded with commercials for various brands of hard cider, and with the weather rapidly warming up here I decided to see what the hype was all about and try some. After doing a little reading to get the benefit of others' experiences I opted for the [URL="http://www.woodchuck.com/"]Woodchuck[/URL] 12-bottle variety pack so as not form my judgement based on any one particular style. The Woodchuck pack includes 3 bottles each of their [I]Amber[/I], [I]Granny Smith[/I], [I]802 Dark & Dry[/I] and "Cider Maker's Choice" (3 bottles of we-aren't-going-to-tell-you-which-one-we're-including-in-this-box). In this instance the surprise bottles turned out to be their [I]Crisp[/I] style.

I have to say that with the exception of the [I]Granny Smith[/I], which I found to have an excessively tart bite to it...just like an under-ripe Granny Smith apple...I rather liked all of them. At about 5% ABV, a little sweet (but only barely so in the case of the 802) and with a level of carbonation that's far less than that of beer they make for a good warm weather thirst quencher.

I later tried an Angry Orchard [I]Crisp Apple[/I] on tap at a local restaurant, and thought it had a tart bite that was similar to the Woodchuck [I]Granny Smith[/I], but was otherwise quite drinkable.

Because of the sugar content these things contain anywhere from 120 - 200 calories / 12 oz bottle...just FYI in case you're watching your girlish figure.

2.) billy b - 05/06/2014
I've been wondering about some of that hard cider, I might try some.
3.) Swamp Fox - 05/07/2014
I've had some. I don't remember what kind(s?). Also some Mike's Hard Lemonade. Very tasty on a hot day.

My favorite is Smirnoff Mojito, though. I have to ration myself when I'm fishing. Bright sun, heat, humidity and one too many mojitos coolers you can drink like water are a recipe for taking an unexpected trip overboard, LOL.

I know Luv2 is a big fan of hard cider. I believe he makes it in his root cellar.
4.) DParker - 05/07/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19524]I know Luv2 is a big fan of hard cider. I believe he makes it in his root cellar.[/QUOTE]

I had an uncle in the TN hills that made hard cider, but his was a substantially higher octane. Very smooth, and you didn't really realize what you had until after you pounded down a mason jar full and then tried to stand up...with emphasis on the [I]tried[/I] part.
5.) bluecat - 05/07/2014
Just recently tried Mike's Hard Apple Cider. It was okay, but it definately didn't hold a candle to the other Mike's products.

I'm not worried about the calories DP, I have a thigh master.
6.) Jon - 05/07/2014
I too, don't care anymore....wait, never did.....and have been sampling the hard cider beers from various distilleries. I'll try this brand next and see what it brings. Thanks DP
7.) Ventilator - 05/07/2014
Whats up with you Texans these days? Drinking cider.lol

Actually , I used to love to drink regular apple cider when I was a kid. I do like the Smirnoff`s and Mike`s lemonade Swampy mentioned. Ive heard about some Dicken`s Cider that is supposed to be really good as well. :tu:
8.) NEBigAl - 05/07/2014
Give Magner's cider a try. Its irish style and almost has a little whiskey bite to it, its great!!! Its kind of hard to find, but its good stuff.
9.) DParker - 05/07/2014
[QUOTE=Ventilator;19534]Whats up with you Texans these days? Drinking cider.lol[/QUOTE]

We wanted to leave the Zima for everyone else.

Just as an addendum for those looking to try one/some of the Woodchucks I would rate the 4 that I tried thusly, in descending order from most to least favorite on their own (unpaired with any food):

[LIST=1]
[*]Amber
[*]Crisp
[*]802
[*]Granny Smith
[/LIST]

Depending on my mood and what I was eating at the time (if anything) I might actually prefer the 802 over the others because it was the driest. But if I was having it with something sweet like a dessert then I'd opt for the Crisp instead, with it having a good balance of both sweet and tart. But straight up on its own, the Amber was best.

I didn't like the Granny Smith at all. Just too tart.
10.) Ventilator - 05/07/2014
I should draw my Georgia gator tag for this fall. Which would you recommend for a long night of gator hunting in the South Georgia swamp? Need one that wont make us too drowsy and still need to be able to shoot relatively straight. Would be good not to fall in also. :wave:
11.) Hunter - 05/07/2014
[QUOTE=DParker;19520]But one (perhaps the only) benefit of getting older is that I just don't care anymore. After being bombarded with commercials for various brands of hard cider, and with the weather rapidly warming up here I decided to see what the hype was all about and try some. After doing a little reading to get the benefit of others' experiences I opted for the [URL="http://www.woodchuck.com/"]Woodchuck[/URL] 12-bottle variety pack so as not form my judgement based on any one particular style. The Woodchuck pack includes 3 bottles each of their [I]Amber[/I], [I]Granny Smith[/I], [I]802 Dark & Dry[/I] and "Cider Maker's Choice" (3 bottles of we-aren't-going-to-tell-you-which-one-we're-including-in-this-box). In this instance the surprise bottles turned out to be their [I]Crisp[/I] style.

I have to say that with the exception of the [I]Granny Smith[/I], which I found to have an excessively tart bite to it...just like an under-ripe Granny Smith apple...I rather liked all of them. At about 5% ABV, a little sweet (but only barely so in the case of the 802) and with a level of carbonation that's far less than that of beer they make for a good warm weather thirst quencher.

I later tried an Angry Orchard [I]Crisp Apple[/I] on tap at a local restaurant, and thought it had a tart bite that was similar to the Woodchuck [I]Granny Smith[/I], but was otherwise quite drinkable.

Because of the sugar content these things contain anywhere from 120 - 200 calories / 12 oz bottle...just FYI in case you're watching your girlish figure.

[/QUOTE]

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12.) Deerminator - 05/08/2014
I like the real stuff that was more like shine than a carbonated beverage.

Great stuff!!!!:tu:
13.) luv2bowhunt - 05/15/2014
Hard cider is my favorite beverage of all time. Just sayin'.

We have several local options, my favorite being Jacks' Peach Hard Cider from Hauser Estate Winery. You probably can't get that unless you visit the area. For national brands you've got to try the Angry Orchard Hard Cider.

Superior to Woodchuck in every category in my humble opinion.

........I now slip back into th[SIZE=2][SIZE=1]e shadows[/SIZE][/SIZE]..........[SIZE=1]hahaha[/SIZE]
14.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
Shane come back...
15.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
See, I knew he hadn't been killed in a horrible physical therapy session...

I told them they'd have to try harder, but did they listen?
16.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
I think the nurse came in, saw him on his little clackety box and turned his meds up a bit. Things will calm down now.
17.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
Swampy, remember the good 'ol days when you could come on HC and there were so many people fighting and getting banned you couldn't hardly read all the posts?
And when the country solved its energy crisis by filling up tires to the correct pressure?
And when someone who participated in the Boston Tea Party was considered an American hero.

I miss those days.
18.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
Remamber whan we sponcered that make a wish thing for that young hunter
19.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
Yea.
20.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Well, as Crookedeye has so astutely pointed out, the country is going down the sewer...

Obama was blowing hot air at a Walmart the other day, celebrating the solar panels. I guess he's celebrated gayness enough for a while. (If Obama had a son, he'd look like Michael Sam, right?)

In 2008, he said he wouldn't shop at Walmart, looking for a big wet kiss from the unions and the crowd that hates everyday low prices.

I'd like to see the old guys come back. I'd name names except I'd probably leave some people out by accident...I don't want any hurt feelings...
21.) billy b - 05/15/2014
I see you lurking Luv2:tap:
22.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Hey, Billy! Speaking of physical therapy, how's everything coming along?
23.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
Yea Billy, How's it hang'n
24.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
I'm not worried about Billy. He is a tough Texan. He will come through this no problem. It's Luv2 that I'm worried about. He uses those little heart-shaped soaps. Need I say more?
25.) luv2bowhunt - 05/15/2014
I can see nothing has changed around here. Of course if you really want to put the blame where it belongs, point your boney little fingers towards upstate NY.

billy I didn't see you in rehab. We must have been scheduled for different days.

I'm doing well, made it several miles through the woods in turkey season so far, no incidents. Only wanted to shoot another hunter once so far. For PA public land that's really good. Normally I would've thought of having an 'accident' 4 or 5 times this far into the season.
26.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
I don't know...Billy could be getting sponge baths from ugly nurses and he'd never say anything...Big tough guy...You don't want somebody going through something like that alone...
27.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
Sooooo Luv, got any rabbit tails?
28.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;19734]...I'm doing well, made it several miles through the woods in turkey season so far, no incidents. Only wanted to shoot another hunter once so far. For PA public land that's really good. Normally I would've thought of having an 'accident' 4 or 5 times this far into the season.[/QUOTE]


Awesome! LOL


Glad to hear things are going well. :wave:
29.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
Don't provoke him, he might pull up a chair and set a spell.
30.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Luv2, if you had to pick a week when the birds are 1) gobbling and 2) responsive to calling in your area, which week would it be?

What about after about mid-May?
31.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;19738]Don't provoke him, he might pull up a chair and set a spell.[/QUOTE]


I don't know...Maybe what the world needs now is luv, sweet luv...


I'm not sure who said that first....:-)
32.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
The problem is he is a Luv'em and Leave'em type of guy. He's like a squall. He'll stir things up, get a few people banned, get himself banned and then poof, hello deer season.
33.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19740]I don't know...Maybe what the world needs now is luv, sweet luv...


...:-)[/QUOTE]

I'm more in alignment with a human sacrifice.
34.) DParker - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;19718]For national brands you've got to try the Angry Orchard Hard Cider.

Superior to Woodchuck in every category in my humble opinion.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Yeah, well...you guys put beans in chili.

I did try the Angry Orchard [I]Crisp Apple[/I] and thought it was about equivalent to the Woodchuck [I]Granny Smith[/I], and much preferred the Woodchuck [I]Amber[/I] and [I]802[/I] to either of the former. Maybe one or two of the other Angry Orchard styles would be more to my liking.
35.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Deerminator;19742]I'm more in alignment with a human sacrifice.[/QUOTE]


LOL...I could name a few candidates, but I'm not sure anyone would think seeing them go would be a sacrifice...

:re:
36.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
As long as they are cooked completely through I have no problem.
37.) luv2bowhunt - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19739]Luv2, if you had to pick a week when the birds are 1) gobbling and 2) responsive to calling in your area, which week would it be?

What about after about mid-May?[/QUOTE]

The story here so far is gooble once or twice on roost, then all is quiet. Really slow the first weekend, 5/3. Things picked up for alot of hunters the next weekend.

They seem to be a bit behind other years, when the first week is always the best. It's been like rifle season here for Spring goobler. If you don't get one the first day or week your not going to get one.

This year seems different. Should have pursued one opening morning I guess, but it would have required crossing the Appalachian Yuppie Trail, and they are militant here about hunters on/near/around the trail. Also, it would have added a half mile hike down the mountain, across the raging small stream, and then try and get above him, while avoiding the Yuppie SS troopers who hug trees and chipmunks on the trail.

He was the only bird I heard that was asking to be killed. Goobled for around 45 minutes and then moved off the opposite direction.
38.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=DParker;19743]Yeah, well...you guys put beans in chili.

[/QUOTE]


:wink

39.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;19748]The story here so far is gooble once or twice on roost, then all is quiet. Really slow the first weekend, 5/3. Things picked up for alot of hunters the next weekend.

They seem to be a bit behind other years, when the first week is always the best. It's been like rifle season here for Spring goobler. If you don't get one the first day or week your not going to get one.

This year seems different. Should have pursued one opening morning I guess, but it would have required crossing the Appalachian Yuppie Trail, and they are militant here about hunters on/near/around the trail. Also, it would have added a half mile hike down the mountain, across the raging small stream, and then try and get above him, while avoiding the Yuppie SS troopers who hug trees and chipmunks on the trail.

He was the only bird I heard that was asking to be killed. Goobled for around 45 minutes and then moved off the opposite direction.[/QUOTE]

Gooble, is that a Pennsylvania thing? "Yous guys hear that turkey gooble?"
40.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
I wondered if maybe the late season saw a lot of people give up and/or an increase in gobbling. That's the case a few places I could name...for the proper amount of money/an attractive swap...:wink
41.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;19750]Gooble, is that a Pennsylvania thing? "Yous guys hear that turkey gooble?"[/QUOTE]

That would be "you 'uns" in his area, if I'm not mistaken. "Yous guys" is more of a Philly thing...and maybe Brooklyn...Not that there's anything wrong with that....:wink

Don't get Luv2 started about Philly, LOL...Even though it's all the same up there no matter what he says....:wink
42.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;19750]Gooble, is that a Pennsylvania thing? "Yous guys hear that turkey gooble?"[/QUOTE]

I'm glad you went there and not me. Otherwise it would seem like I'm piling on. :wink

On a related note, things are so bad with the deer herd in Pa. that there are no does. No matter how many does you see, you only saw some doe.
43.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
Luv2 is the Rodney Dangerfield of Pennsylvania. "We get no respect, no respect at all, why the deer herd in Pennsylvania is so bad that even the deer ticks are pissed off.
44.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Aw, man, we ran the little guy off...


Where's the sad smiley when you need it?
45.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=luv2bowhunt;19748]The story here so far is gooble once or twice on roost, then all is quiet. Really slow the first weekend, 5/3. Things picked up for alot of hunters the next weekend.

They seem to be a bit behind other years, when the first week is always the best. It's been like rifle season here for Spring goobler. If you don't get one the first day or week your not going to get one.

This year seems different. Should have pursued one opening morning I guess, but it would have required crossing the Appalachian Yuppie Trail, and they are militant here about hunters on/near/around the trail. Also, it would have added a half mile hike down the mountain, across the raging small stream, and then try and get above him, while avoiding the Yuppie SS troopers who hug trees and chipmunks on the trail.

He was the only bird I heard that was asking to be killed. Goobled for around 45 minutes and then moved off the opposite direction.[/QUOTE]

SAME HERE ( pretty much ):rage:
46.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Deerminator;19742]I'm more in alignment with a human sacrifice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19745]LOL...I could name a few candidates, but I'm not sure anyone would think seeing them go would be a sacrifice...

:re:[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=bluecat;19747]As long as they are cooked completely through I have no problem.[/QUOTE]


Man, that's cold...

:wink
47.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
The queston is: Which wine ?
48.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Well, a nice chianti, I would think...

Not that I'd really know...
49.) DParker - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Deerminator;19742]I'm more in alignment with a human sacrifice.[/QUOTE]

But there's usually a requirement that the sacrifice be a virgin....and where are you going to find one of those now-a-days?
50.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
Swampy:-)
51.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
LOL, D... :-)


[QUOTE=DParker;19769]But there's usually a requirement that the sacrifice be a virgin....and where are you going to find one of those now-a-days?[/QUOTE]



I'm gonna say

[url]http://www.yda.org/[/url]

52.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
TADAAAA!!!!!!!
53.) DParker - 05/15/2014
Oh, sure...if you open the sacrifice candidate pool up by including males then that's a different story. Pretty much any BronyCon, Trekkie convention, ham radio club meeting, etc then becomes a target-rich environment.
54.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=DParker;19773]Oh, sure...if you open the sacrifice candidate pool up by including males then that's a different story. Pretty much any BronyCon, Trekkie convention, ham radio club meeting, etc then becomes a target-rich environment.[/QUOTE]

BAZINGA !
55.) DParker - 05/15/2014
...high school audio/visual club, chess club, ugly Kentucky girls who can outrun their brothers....
56.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=DParker;19773]Oh, sure...if you open the sacrifice candidate pool up by including males then that's a different story. Pretty much any BronyCon, Trekkie convention, ham radio club meeting, etc then becomes a target-rich environment.[/QUOTE]


I'm thinking about a third of ArcheryTalk, too...

:p
57.) DParker - 05/15/2014
...whatever this is...

58.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
Is there anyway to unsee a post?
59.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19776]I'm thinking about a third of ArcheryTalk, too...

:p[/QUOTE]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
60.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT ANYWAY:cf:
61.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
I'm posting so that we scroll to the next page.
62.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
good thinking Bluecat:beer:
63.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
I'm offended by all this talk about virgins.

Signed,

Readers of Harry Potter and Renaissance Fair re-enactors
64.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
I saw a show recently on 60 Minutes or some such about dads and their young daughters, and how they were going through a chastity pledge and a whole ceremony about it...We're talking about swords and chivalry pledges and everything...

Some parts were simply cringe-worthy...Other parts I just said, yeah, good luck with that...

Glad I don't have any daughters...That I know of...
65.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19786]I saw a show recently on 60 Minutes or some such about dads and their young daughters, and how they were going through a chastity pledge and a whole ceremony about it...We're talking about swords and chivalry pledges and everything...

Some parts were simply cringe-worthy...Other parts I just said, yeah, good luck with that...

Glad I don't have any daughters...That I know of...[/QUOTE]

Huzzah! :wink
66.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
...kicking it up a notch
67.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19786]Some parts were simply cringe-worthy...Other parts I just said, yeah, good luck with that...
[/QUOTE]

You made a funny. :tu:
68.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;19787]Huzzah! :wink[/QUOTE]


Not that I don't sympathize with dads, but geez...This is why I take care of cats and not offspring...
69.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
somebody has to ask;

Chastity belts to?
70.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
I don't think so, but then I didn't see the whole show...
71.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Very disappointed that the tale of Sir Galahad the Pure hasn't come up yet...

:wink

72.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
Have ya thought about making your own hard cider
73.) Deerminator - 05/15/2014
GET [B][SIZE=7]ON [/SIZE][/B] WITH IT
74.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19793]Very disappointed that the tale of Sir Galahad the Pure hasn't come up yet...

:wink

[/QUOTE]

"Perhaps I could stay a bit longer."
75.) DParker - 05/15/2014
No, it's too perilous.
76.) bluecat - 05/15/2014
"I bet you're gay."
77.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
“Look, it's my duty as a knight to sample as much peril as I can."
78.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Did you ever notice that everything in life can be traced back to a Monty Python clip, usually from [I]The Holy Grail[/I]?
79.) Swamp Fox - 05/15/2014
Either that or [I]Napoleon Dynamite[/I]....:wink
80.) billy b - 05/16/2014
I can throw a football ov.............but I told you that didn't I?
81.) Jon - 05/16/2014
"I've got bowhunting skills..."
82.) Swamp Fox - 05/16/2014
"Give me some of your tots!"
83.) billy b - 05/16/2014
Vote for Pedro:grin:
84.) DParker - 05/16/2014
[QUOTE=billy b;19830]Vote for Pedro:grin:[/QUOTE]

And get protection!

[video=youtube_share;HJp7RUC0Ies]http://youtu.be/HJp7RUC0Ies[/video]
85.) Swamp Fox - 05/16/2014
We also need some way to make us look official, like we got all the answers.