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1.) bluecat - 09/20/2013


I know I'll get accused of beating that dead horse :dh:, but I saw this and it made me feel a little better.
2.) Swamp Fox - 09/20/2013
My Magic 8 Ball says Benghazi will be one of several things that will keep Hillary from running in 2016.

So that's the good news.

The bad news is that someone else just as bad (or worse!) will run in her place. I'm rooting for Lois Lerner...
3.) DParker - 09/20/2013
I don't know. It should be, but....

[URL="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/09/20/hbo-creating-benghazi-movie"]HBO To Make Benghazi Movie[/URL]

The book this is going to be based on is pretty critical of the administration's handling of the incident, all the way from the mismanagament of the security setup to the response to the attack...and the attempted cover-ups after the fact. But it's HBO and Weintraub, so my money is on a movie with a spin that is not faithful to the book, serving the dual purpose of continuing the "phony scandal" narrative and preventing anyone else from producing a more accurate version.

I could be wrong, and I hope I am. HBO and Weintraub could do something out of character (ie, be honest) with this one. But I'm not betting on it.
4.) Swamp Fox - 09/20/2013
I hope Jean Claude van Damme or Chuck Norris are in it. They'll keep 'em straight out there...
5.) Swamp Fox - 09/20/2013
And just in case they're not enough, I'm keeping Jack Bauer in my back pocket, and these inconvenient truths for campaign season:

[I]Any fair assessment of Clinton’s tenure in office would conclude that she was among the weakest and least successful secretaries of state in recent memory. It is only by virtue of Clinton’s PR machine and an ignorant, compliant mainstream media that she gets rock-star treatment[/I]

[B]Hillary's Legacy of Mismanagement Abroad: [/B]

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/03/26/hillary-clintons-legacy-of-mismanagement-abroad/[/url]
6.) bluecat - 09/20/2013
I'm thinking Sammy Davis Junior (RIP) should play Obama. Deputy Dog should play Billary (Miss Management) and Elmer Fudd should play Biden.
7.) Swamp Fox - 09/20/2013
....Ricochet Rabbit as Jay Carney and Sam the Sheepdog as Victoria Nuland...
8.) bluecat - 04/30/2014
[url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/29/charles-krauthammer-says-americans-now-have-the-smoking-document-in-benghazi-scandal/[/url]


Syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer on Tuesday said the American people have the “smoking document” that proves the Obama administration took part in a cover up in the aftermath of the deadly Benghazi terrorist attacks.

Judicial Watch has released newly declassified emails that suggest top-ranking Obama administration officials coordinated in 2012 to make it appear that the deadly attacks on the U.S. facilities in Libya were sparked by an “Internet video” and not “a broader failure or policy.”

“It is in conflict with what we’ve been told, with what Jay Carney has been saying,” Krauthammer said of the revelations. “And that is, their story has always been this stuff call came from the CIA, from intelligence so it was completely clean.”

Krauthammer noted that former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell testified that he had never brought up the video as a possible motivator for the Benghazi attacks.

“We now have the smoking document, which is the White House saying: ‘We’re pushing the video because we don’t want to blame it on the failure of our policies,’” he added. “This undermines the whole narrative, therefore they have to invent the video. So I think this is extremely important.”

Krauthammer predicted the mainstream media will once again fail to properly look into the latest developments in the Benghazi saga, which will make things very difficult to progress.
9.) Deerminator - 04/30/2014
This should be played over and over
10.) bluecat - 04/30/2014
It will get buried like everything else (Fast and Furious, IRS, NSA, etc. etc. etc.)
11.) Hunter - 04/30/2014
If you lie all the time, no one can tell when you are lieing.........:bang:
12.) DParker - 04/30/2014
[QUOTE=Hunter;19346]If you lie all the time, no one can tell when you are lieing.........:bang:[/QUOTE]

Sure you can. Their lips are moving.
13.) Swamp Fox - 04/30/2014
Two things Hillary regrets: Benghazi and not being able to drive a car...Not sure which one she spent more time on while speaking to the convention of car dealers...

[url]http://www.news.com.au/world/regrets-hillary-clintons-got-one-she-hasnt-driven-a-car-since-1996/story-fndir2ev-1226811743171[/url]

One of my questions is what self-respecting car dealer wants to listen to Hillary speak at a convention?

:shocked:
14.) DParker - 04/30/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19360]One of my questions is what [B][COLOR="#0000FF"]self-respecting[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]car dealer[/COLOR][/B] wants to listen to Hillary speak at a convention?[/QUOTE]

Contradiction in terms?
15.) bluecat - 04/30/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19360]
One of my questions is what self-respecting car dealer wants to listen to Hillary speak at a convention?

:shocked:[/QUOTE]

I would think they would pick up some necessary skills on how to deceive, misrepresent, minimize, evade and shift focus.
16.) ARCHERXP - 05/04/2014
well played
17.) bluecat - 05/05/2014
Dude, that was like two years ago...
18.) bluecat - 05/05/2014


Absolutely shameful.
19.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2014



One of them is a weasel. The other is a furry pest that sneaks around killing chickens and stealing eggs...
20.) bluecat - 05/05/2014
:applause:
21.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2014
I knew as soon as I saw that interview that it would make it to HC, LOL...


Here's a few pretty good nuggets from a blog I ran across:

[I]Well, FNC has been having fun playing and replaying the bizarre interview of the annoying Tommy Vietor, a former Obama national security spokesman, who protested being queried by exclaiming, "Dude! It was, like, 2 years ago!"

Vietor's shocking response has been subjected to wide ridicule around the web; as we wrote yesterday, however, his comportment reflects a more disturbing underlying issue.

Just what kind of character and background do you need to be a spokesman or official in the Obama administration, even as national security personnel?

These people share certain qualities:
•easily irritated
•arrogance and a condescending attitude toward the public
•tendencies to lie while claiming transparency
•sycophantic cult-like loyalty
•incompetence
•campaign hacks elevated to positions of authority and enjoying every minute of their very temporary authority

Let's look at State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki, whose performances regularly include irritation and verbal stumbling. Accused of being an incompetent campaign hack who lies on a regular basis, just to get out of situations that make her higher ups look bad, still, Leftists view her as quick-witted...

[Video]

Then there's Marie Harf, who frequently claims to be part of the most "transparent" administration ever. Her glasses set her apart from the Psaki bimbo, apparently.

Harf embodies the overweening arrogance and condescension of this administration, irritated when questioned, and diminishing concerns over violence and possible terrorist activity.

Incompetence? Of course.

Harf is the person who claims "we can use whatever definition of transparency we want." What's important is what Obama's going around saying to everyone, not what the administration is actually doing...

[Video]

This POTUS is supposed to be the smartest (and most bored) man to ever hold office.

Evidence of the man's intellectual rigor and eloquence can be found in the following video in which he demonizes those with whom he disagrees and accuses their policies of being a "stinkburger.

[Video]

Um, yeah. It sure looks like the arrogant little pricks running the country are emulating you know who.

They've learned from the best.

Or the worst, depending on your perspective.

I guess anyone who appoints a tax cheat as head of Treasury really doesn't care about optics, competence or national security. [/I]

[url]http://teapartyatperrysburg.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-obama-mini-mes-vietor-harf-psaki.html[/url]
22.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2014
23.) bluecat - 05/05/2014
Good info Swamp.



Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., said that she supports raising minimum wage in the state of California to $26 an hour, adding that she doesn’t think such a hike would hurt small business owners.


Is there no end to people's ignorance?
24.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2014
If she ever ran so much as a lemonade stand, I bet it didn't last long.

Twenty-six dollars here, 26 there. What difference at this point does it make?

She and Hilllary should get on the same ticket together. That way maybe Hillary could get some pointers on pandering and fake accents. Maybe Obama could even be a substitute teacher every once in a while. He likes to go sing-song and drop his g's in front of the right audience. Man, he's so cool!

Maybe get Lee to refer ol' Hill for membership in the Black Panthers, even.

[url]http://www.caintv.com/video-hillary-in-southern-blac[/url]

[url]http://twitchy.com/2013/07/18/sisterhood-of-the-traveling-ass-hillary-clinton-is-no-ways-tired-of-offensive-fake-accent/[/url]
25.) DParker - 05/05/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19466]If she ever ran so much as a lemonade stand, I bet it didn't last long.[/QUOTE]

She claims that she owned a 300+ employee "small business" in Oakland during the '70s, but I can't find hide nor hair of any description of what that alleged business was. Curiously, she didn't even get out of college until '75, which she attended as a single mother of two while on public assistance. Going from that to owning a 300+ employee business in less than 5 years sounds like a sketchy claim to me.
26.) Swamp Fox - 05/05/2014
If you're running a multi-level marketing scheme, the people below you are not employees---Just sayin'---but I'm not sure Black Panthers do multi-level marketing...

At least not for soap and stuff...
27.) DParker - 05/05/2014
Just a little Federal Minimum Wage math to lighten your afternoon....

The original Federal Minimum Wage, enacted in 1938, was $0.40/hr. Because of the war time inflation this was modified sharply upward in 1949 to $0.75/hr. Rather than allowing that wage to be pegged to annual inflation Congress has modified it eight other times according to other factors (rarely rational ones), each time increasing it to a level significantly higher than it would be if tied to annual inflation (anywhere from 13.6% more to as high as 88.5% more). So, if the original rate of $0.40/hr had been subsequently increased each year according to the annual national rate of inflation it would be $6.40/hr today, instead of the $7.25/hr that it is now (which took effect in 2009, when the inflation-driven wage would have been only $5.92/hr.) In fact, even had that last artificial wage hike been allowed to increase with inflation it would be $7.85/hr today. About half of most of the current calls for a national minimum wage of $15.00/hr (Lee's call for $26/hr in CA not withstanding.)

Sources:

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Labor_Standards_Act_of_1938"]The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938[/URL]
[URL="http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/"]Historical Inflation Rates: 1914-2014[/URL]
28.) bluecat - 05/06/2014
As widely expected, House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) on Monday announced that Rep. Trey Gowdy will lead a newly-formed select committee to investigate the State Department's handling of the 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Libya.

"Trey Gowdy is as dogged, focused, and serious-minded as they come. His background as a federal prosecutor and his zeal for the truth make him the ideal person to lead this panel," Boehner said in a statement on Monday afternoon.

"I know he shares my commitment to get to the bottom of this tragedy and will not tolerate any stonewalling from the Obama administration. I plan to ensure he and his committee have the strongest authority possible to root out all the facts. This is a big job, but Rep. Gowdy has the confidence of this conference, and I know his professionalism and grit will earn him the respect of the American people.”


I like this guy. He may just bring the cockroaches out into the light. "Get 'em!"
29.) Swamp Fox - 05/06/2014
This is from some time ago...

Telling.


30.) Hunter - 05/06/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;19500]This is from some time ago...

Telling.


[/QUOTE]

:applause::applause::applause:

Unfortunately, the mainstream press still doesn't feel the need to pursue those questions
31.) DParker - 05/06/2014
You should rewatch Gowdy (and Chaffetz too) in some of the Fast and Furious hearings. They're a pair of pit bulls I wouldn't want to be testifying before if I had something I was trying to keep quiet.
32.) bluecat - 05/06/2014
Damn, makes me proud to be an American.
33.) Swamp Fox - 05/06/2014
The most transparent administration in history 1) won't release 7-page State Dept./White House email discussing strategy to respond to Fox News report claiming administration knew within 24 hours of the attack that it was terrorism, 2) has not explained State Department document redactions as legally required (about 2:50 in), AND 3) has [B]retroactively classified previously unclassified documents[/B] (see approx. 5:30 minutes into this video) in such a way that they will not be available to the public for 25 years, absent court action.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/video/white-house-withhold-benghazi-email-153540629.html[/url]



And more historic transparency:





34.) DParker - 05/07/2014
This is a little old (by about a year), but I'll put it up here anyway as just a little red meat....

[video=youtube;A1jeJmeeMjs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A1jeJmeeMjs[/video]
35.) bluecat - 09/05/2014
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/world/africa/new-book-says-cia-official-in-benghazi-held-up-rescue.html?_r=0#[/url]


New Book Says C.I.A. Official in Benghazi Held Up Rescue

Five commandos guarding the C.I.A. base in Benghazi, Libya, in September 2012 say that the C.I.A. station chief stopped them from interceding in time to save the lives of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and an American technician during the attack on the diplomatic mission there.


The chickens are roosting.
36.) DParker - 09/05/2014
What difference, at this point....

C'mon, you know the words. Sing along with me.
37.) Swamp Fox - 09/05/2014
Bret Baier is interviewing those guys at 10 tonight. He says that of the 30-40 big interviews he's done for the air (my number: I think he might have said 34 but I don't remember) this one is the most compelling. I think he's a darn good interviewer, so that's saying something.

It will be interesting to see if the Obama/Clinton apologists and the Benghazi deniers wake up at all as new information comes out. They've been saying not just "What does it matter?" but that all the questions are answered and that "there's nothing to see here" for quite a while, even in the face of information blatantly to the contrary.

Reminds me of Elija Cummings declaring the IRS investigation "settled" (in 2013, I believe) and O telling us that there's "not a smidgeon of corruption."

Not sure why anyone would advance or defend such naked dishonesty, but I'll bet there's a special place in the afterlife where they can all meet up and figure out what difference it makes when they finally get the time to think about it.
38.) bluecat - 09/05/2014
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;24288]
Not sure why anyone would advance or defend such naked dishonesty, but I'll bet there's a special place in the afterlife where they can all meet up and figure out what difference it makes when they finally get the time to think about it.[/QUOTE]


:grin:
39.) Swamp Fox - 09/05/2014
"Is it warm in here, or is it just me?"


:fire:
40.) bluecat - 09/05/2014
Oh, it's warm and it smells a bit like burnt roux.
41.) luv2bowhunt - 09/05/2014
[QUOTE=DParker;24286]What difference, at this point....

C'mon, you know the words. Sing along with me.[/QUOTE]

...does it really make. 4 Americans are dead............yawn. America has long forgotten about this. Just like the IRS/Tea Party, Fast and furious, etc. etc. I'll bet most Americans don't even know who the Vice President is right now.

Wish I didn't.........
42.) DParker - 09/05/2014
Don't worry. Hollywood liberals to the rescue. They're about to help us remember history...though they're going to need to rewrite it in the process, of course:

[URL="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/toronto-dan-rather-scandal-movie-729722"]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/toronto-dan-rather-scandal-movie-729722[/URL]
43.) Swamp Fox - 09/05/2014
...[I][B]Mythology Entertainment [/B]is the driving force behind Truth, which was first announced in July.

Based on Mapes' 2005 memoir Truth and Duty: The Press, the President, and the Privilege of Power, Truth centers on the firestorm and ensuing "Rathergate" scandal that erupted in September 2004 after Rather reported that George W. Bush had received special treatment while serving in the Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, a report that was based on some documents that were [B]suspected[/B] to be forgeries...[/I]




There you go right there. (Emphasis mine.)

Willful idiots and propagandists.
44.) DParker - 09/06/2014
The best comment on that story was something like, "I'm sure it'll have all the historic accuracy of an Oliver Stone flick."
45.) bluecat - 09/16/2014
Former State Department official: Clinton camp destroyed Benghazi documents

In his account, Maxwell claims that allies of Hillary Clinton removed potentially damaging documents before handing over files to the Accountability Review Board investigating the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack on the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi.

Maxwell, the former head of the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, told lawmakers an after hours session to separate documents took place over a weekend in a operations-type center at the State Department in Washington D.C.

[url]http://benswann.com/former-state-department-official-clinton-camp-destroyed-benghazi-documents/[/url]

Representative Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) confirmed Maxwell’s story. Chaffetz stated that Maxwell told him and other lawmakers his sum of events last year when he was privately interviewed in the aftermath of the attacks. At that time, according to Chaffetz, Maxwell claimed that Clinton’s chief of staff and deputy chief of staff oversaw the alleged weekend.
46.) Swamp Fox - 09/16/2014
To be fair, I don't think that the charge is that the documents were destroyed. I've not seen that anywhere except in the headline to the story linked above. My guess is that the headline writer is jumping to conclusions. Why would anyone think that Clinton aides would destroy documents? Maybe they were just going to put them in a special binder.

Here are excerpts from the original story by Sharyl Attkisson*:

...

In an interview Monday morning on Fox News, Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, named the two Hillary Clinton confidants who allegedly were present: One was Cheryl Mills, Clinton’s chief of staff and a former White House counsel who defended President Bill Clinton during his impeachment trial. The other, Chaffetz said, was Deputy Chief of Staff Jake Sullivan, who previously worked on Hillary Clinton’s and then Barack Obama’s presidential campaigns.

...

We contacted Mills and Sullivan to ask about the allegations and the purpose of the described separation of documents, but they did not return calls or emails. We reached out to Clinton, who declined an interview request and offered no comment. A State Department spokesman told us it would have been impossible for anybody outside the Accountability Review Board (ARB) to control the flow of information because the board cultivated so many sources.

...

In May 2013, when critics questioned the ARB’s investigation as not thorough enough, co-chairmen Ambassador Thomas Pickering and Adm. Mike Mullen responded that “we had unfettered access to everyone and everything including all the documentation we needed.”

Maxwell says when he heard that statement, he couldn’t help but wonder if the ARB—perhaps unknowingly—had received from his bureau a scrubbed set of documents with the most damaging material missing.

...

Maxwell also criticizes the ARB as “anything but independent,” pointing to Mullen’s admission in congressional testimony that he called Mills to give her inside advice after the ARB interviewed a potential congressional witness.

In an interview in September 2013, Pickering told me that he would not have done what Mullen did. But both co-chairmen strongly defend their probe as “fiercely independent.”

Maxwell also criticizes the ARB for failing to interview key people at the White House, State Department and the CIA, including not only Clinton but Deputy Secretary of State Thomas Nides, who managed department resources in Libya; Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs Andrew Shapiro; and White House National Security Council Director for Libya Ben Fishman.

“The ARB inquiry was, at best, a shoddily executed attempt at damage control, both in Foggy Bottom and on Capitol Hill,” Maxwell says. He views the after-hours operation he witnessed in the State Department basement as “an exercise in misdirection.”

....

Several weeks after he was placed on leave with no formal accusations, Maxwell made an appointment to address his status with a State Department ombudsman.

“She told me, ‘You are taking this all too personally, Raymond. It is not about you,’ ” Maxwell recalls.
“I told her that ‘My name is on TV and I’m on administrative leave, it seems like it’s about me.’ Then she said, ‘You’re not harmed, you’re still getting paid. Don’t watch TV. Take your wife on a cruise. It’s not about you; it’s about Hillary and 2016.’ ”

...

The whole story is here:

[url]http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/15/benghazi-bombshell-clinton-state-department-official-reveals-alleged-details-document-review/[/url]



*Sharyl Attkisson is a veteran investigative reporter. Until recently, she worked at CBS News. You might also remember that her computer was hacked (she claimed possibly because of her coverage of government corruption and scandal) and that CBS acknowledged that hacking did occur, without disclosing who the hacker(s) were (that I know of).

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/03/10/sharyl-attkisson-leaves-cbs-news/[/url]
47.) bluecat - 09/18/2014
State Department Covered Up Pedophilia by Ambassador Who Was Obama and Hillary Donor



[url]http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/state-department-covered-up-pedophilia-by-ambassador-who-was-obama-and-hillary-donor/[/url]
48.) DParker - 09/18/2014
[QUOTE=bluecat;25519]State Department Covered Up Pedophilia by Ambassador Who Was Obama and Hillary Donor



[url]http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/state-department-covered-up-pedophilia-by-ambassador-who-was-obama-and-hillary-donor/[/url][/QUOTE]

[quote][B]June 11, 2013[/B] by Daniel Greenfield[/quote]

Doing The Time Warp Again, Rif-Raf? :-)
49.) Swamp Fox - 09/18/2014
I remember hearing about that. Seemed like it faded away. Considering how good Team Hillary is at investigating itself, I'm not surprised.
50.) bluecat - 09/18/2014
Well that is odd. I never checked the date. They were talking about it this morning on The Blaze like it just happened.
51.) Swamp Fox - 09/19/2014
Well, Beck keeps talking about Woodrow Wilson like he's about to walk in the door and ask to use the bathroom, so...:wink

Not that there's anything wrong with that, LOL... I don't get a chance to listen to him much, but he's sometimes like a dog on a bone. I wouldn't be surprised if he was trying to tie that possible cover-up at Hill's State Department in with this latest possible cover-up at Hill's State Department...but it's hard to see what the cases have in common... :re: LOL :tap:
52.) bluecat - 09/19/2014
Did something happen to Woodrow Wilson? :-)

Heard this yesterday and it gave me a chuckle. Paraphrasing..."Electing Hillary wouldn't be good for the country but at least there would be some balls in the White House."
53.) Swamp Fox - 09/19/2014
LOL...It's so true.

Sad, but true.

:bang::bang::bang:
54.) bluecat - 03/05/2015
Hillary Clinton's email server traced to Internet service registered to NY home


Oh Hillary, after you are elected we are going to have so much fun.


[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/04/hillary-clinton-email-server-traced-to-internet-service-registered-to-ny-home/[/url]
55.) Alex - 03/05/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;30374]Hillary Clinton's email server traced to Internet service registered to NY home

Oh Hillary, after you are elected we are going to have so much fun.

[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/04/hillary-clinton-email-server-traced-to-internet-service-registered-to-ny-home/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Not smart...
You're not going to want to hear this but this is hardly the first time. Jeb Bush was tagged for using personal email while Gov and where did he store his emails? Yep.. His personal email server. It's actually the most secure way to control and keep information private.
I suspect that unless laws change on the matter it will continue to be done and almost certainly is being done by others besides Clinton and Bush.

Of course... Fox wont tell ya this.. and CNN will tout it.
Here's a hint... they all lie like compulsive liars and neither side of this silly 2 party freakshow can be trusted.

:wave:
56.) bluecat - 03/05/2015
It's not about left and right it's about right and wrong.

It is and was illegal. She should be using the government's email system for government business. I didn't know about Bush's situation, but wrong is wrong.
57.) Alex - 03/05/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;30376]It's not about left and right it's about right and wrong.

It is and was illegal. She should be using the government's email system for government business. I didn't know about Bush's situation, but wrong is wrong.[/QUOTE]

Actually, it isnt illegal. It's improper. Dont let your emotions rule your response.
According to the law any personal email that contains official business info is supposed to be reviewed and released.
That is what Jeb did. That's what I understand is now happening with Clinton.
Neither did it until they were called on it.

So my point it that right and wrong is the point. The inability for most people to apply the same emotional investment towards that starts and stops at the party line.
:co:
58.) Swamp Fox - 03/05/2015
Jeb Bush's situation as it may or may not relate to Hillary actually [I]was [/I]covered on Fox, possibly as early as the day before yesterday. My understanding is that his personal email account and server situation was public knowledge. He also maintained the expected government account. The idea that he used a private account and/or server to avoid public record-keeping laws is not seriously considered, to my knowledge.

The other problem with comparing Hillary to Jeb is that federal laws and state laws are not the same. This is to say nothing of the fact that issues and concerns surrounding a Secretary of State's dealings and correspondence are vastly different and more consequential than those involving a state governor's.

Shall we also point out that to the extent that Jeb Bush has anyone at all alleging he is crooked, seedy, slippery, megalomaniacal, above the law, etc., such cries are DROWNED by Hillary's history and reputation? I can name a few classic Rodham-Clinton episodes off the top of my head, and I'm not sure I'd have fingers left over if you gave me more than a minute. We're talking about the poster girl for evasiveness and record-keeping problems right here.

But to move on, so to speak: Alex is correct to the extent that you could, as a federal employee, do some of your official business on private email as long as you maintained records properly. Once you begin messing with what the definition of "maintained" is (See what I did there?) then you're starting to step in it. Since 2013, though, the rules got much tighter, with requirements--previously "guidelines" not taken very seriously--enhanced and added. If you are doing [B]anything [/B]on a personal account after 2013, there are certain steps to be taken and disclosures made within a certain number of days, blah, blah, blah.

Consider that Hillary did ALL her business on a private account before [I]and [/I]after 2013, did not even [I]have[/I] a dot gov account, and the State Department had to ask her for their records back after she left. She did not turn over her records until then. We assume State did not have them elsewhere, or there would be no need to request them from her. This seems to indicate she did not comply with storage, maintenance and disclosure requirements, at a minimum.

That's a lot to consider. Not only was Hillary improper, she was plainly evasive of the federal record-keeping laws.

That on its own (evasion) could put her in the pokey, if we had an Attorney General so inclined.

But here's the good news: Now we know where to look for government records ---Who woulda thunk it wasn't at the government?--- so there should be no problem complying with the backlog of Freedom of Information Act requests and congressional inquiries, right?
59.) Swamp Fox - 03/05/2015
Clarification:

At some point I got the idea that the 2013 reg had something technical to do with this (duplication and reporting), but I'm not sure that this is the case since Hillary resigned so early in 2013. I'll leave that up to the people who know the exact effective date of the regulation.

More important is that even pre-2013 rules and laws required maintenance, preservation, storage and accessibility practices which Hillary clearly did not follow. The 2013 regulation did not eliminate or relax any of those requirements, but added some. Hillary has turned over some emails at the request of the State Department, which had to ask for them. We don't know what has not been turned over, or what has been disappeared, to the extent that such a thing can be done on a private server.

For the ins and outs:

[I]In 2009, after a Government Accountability Office report indicated that certain agencies had lax e-mail practices, the NARA [National Archives and Records Administration] adopted new regulations that provided that any emails created on private e-mail accounts must be preserved. But that regulation merely restated, in perhaps slightly different language, what the 1995 regulation had already mandated, requiring that “[a]gencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system.” When Congress later, after Mrs. Clinton left office, enacted amendments to the Federal Records Act to prohibit private e-mail use where the official fails to preserve the records, it was merely addressing the process which the employee had to follow — by requiring the employee to copy or to forward the email to an official account within a 20 days – and providing the agency authority to discipline the employee (short of criminal sanctions) for failing to comply (see 44 U.S.C. 2911). In no way did the congressional enactment change the law, which has addressed the preservation of official e-mails from not-so-official accounts since the early days of e-mail in the federal government.
[/I]


[url]http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/414913/yes-what-hillary-did-was-illegal-and-has-been-20-years-shannen-coffin[/url]
60.) Deerminator - 03/06/2015
Perhaps a few things are going to come into the light:wink
61.) bluecat - 03/06/2015
Let's just hope it isn't a giant lime green pant suit.
62.) Deerminator - 03/06/2015
:duh::duh::duh:
63.) Swamp Fox - 03/06/2015
Funny you mention pants suits.

One of Hillary's email addies on her private server is [email]PagingSandyBerger@pantsuits.com[/email]


The good thing about pants suits is you can accidentally stuff a lot more documents in them than in men's pants, and you don't even need socks.
64.) bluecat - 03/06/2015
That and the fact that when you are attacked, they will deflect sniper bullets...


[url]http://sharylattkisson.com/hillary-clintons-dodging-sniper-fire-in-bosnia-tale/[/url]

Hillary Clinton’s “Dodging Sniper Fire in Bosnia” Tale

excerpt:

It was twelve years after the fact when Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton got caught embellishing the danger she’d faced on a trip to Bosnia.

I happened to have accompanied her on the trip and didn’t remember being shot at, as Clinton described. The videotape of the actual visit proved Clinton’s memory wrong–not just once but twice.

After my first report exposed the truth, Clinton doubled down and dug in, providing a second reason to question her memory of events.

Clinton never fully explained how she could have made such a mistake as saying she had ducked sniper fire when there hadn’t been a sniper in sight. Initially, she stated “I was sleep deprived and I misspoke.”
65.) bluecat - 03/06/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;30388]That and the fact that when you are attacked on the tarmac, they will deflect sniper bullets...


[url]http://sharylattkisson.com/hillary-clintons-dodging-sniper-fire-in-bosnia-tale/[/url][/QUOTE]

excerpt:

It was twelve years after the fact when Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton got caught embellishing the danger she’d faced on a trip to Bosnia.

I happened to have accompanied her on the trip and didn’t remember being shot at, as Clinton described. The videotape of the actual visit proved Clinton’s memory wrong–not just once but twice.

After my first report exposed the truth, Clinton doubled down and dug in, providing a second reason to question her memory of events.

Clinton never fully explained how she could have made such a mistake as saying she had ducked sniper fire when there hadn’t been a sniper in sight. Initially, she stated “I was sleep deprived and I misspoke.”
66.) Swamp Fox - 03/06/2015
LOL...Remember that video I posted spoofing that a while back?...A clip from the real video was on the tube a few weeks ago, probably during the Brian Williams "war story" news cycle.





Here's the original report by S.A. when she was at CBS:


67.) Swamp Fox - 03/06/2015
Another Hillary email account:

[email]TheHBomb@myexcellentworldtravels.com[/email]
68.) billy b - 03/06/2015
This is the thread that just won't go away, & for good reason:wink
69.) bluecat - 03/06/2015
Sorry Swampy, I didn't remember until I saw the clip or is that magazine...
70.) bluecat - 03/06/2015
[QUOTE=billy b;30392]This is the thread that just won't go away, & for good reason:wink[/QUOTE]

This thread has let its emotions get in the way for a year and a half. :laugh: :fire:
71.) Swamp Fox - 03/06/2015
No need to apologize. It's a good reminder. LOL.

More Hillary email addresses (I'm stealing these two from elsewhere):


[email]securityrequests@benghazi.com[/email] (Note: This is an unmonitored account)


[email]no-reply@3am.com[/email]



In case there's still any doubt at this point:



From [I]Before It's News[/I] today, 3/6/15:



[I]State Department emails obtained by a government watchdog last week reveal that no one within the department, including former Secretary Hillary Clinton, ever attributed the Benghazi, Libya, terror attack as anything other than just that — a terror attack.

The emails, obtained by Judicial Watch through a freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, show a lot of back-and-forth between security staff and Clinton aides as the attack unfolded in real time, as well as in its immediate aftermath.

Never does anyone mention anything about a YouTube video in those exchanges. But, only hours after the attack began, they do mention al-Sharia, Al-Qaida’s Libyan affiliate, as the group claiming responsibility.

Judicial Watch obtained the FOIA-requested emails earlier this month, followed by a Feb. 26 report on its website that explains how the new information bolsters its ongoing lawsuit against the State Department. According to Judicial Watch, the emails demonstrate that “top aides for then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, including her then-chief of staff Cheryl Mills, knew from the outset that the Benghazi mission compound was under attack by armed assailants tied to a terrorist group.”

The documents make no reference to a spontaneous demonstration or Internet video, except in an official statement issued by Hillary Clinton.

...

Although no internal conversation focused on an alternate motive for the attack — say, a grass-roots mob reaction to a blasphemous video — Clinton nevertheless followed the Obama administration’s evolving narrative by issuing a public statement crediting the now-infamous video clip with inspiring the attack.


Despite her three top staff members being informed that a terrorist group had claimed credit for the attack, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, issued an official statement, also produced to Judicial Watch, claiming the assault may have been in “a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.” [/I]


[url]http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/03/uncovered-emails-indicate-state-department-always-knew-benghazi-was-a-planned-attack-no-mention-of-youtube-video-3117994.html[/url]
72.) bluecat - 03/06/2015
Expected but still chilling nonetheless. Thanks Swamp.
73.) Swamp Fox - 03/06/2015
So the question is, Who came up with the video story and decided to push it?

It's scary to think of all I could get done if I had my own BS Team AND an IT team.
74.) crookedeye - 03/07/2015
don't underestimate Hillary..she's a smart women.. you no looking all sexy in that suit she wears and those glasses..


trust me she's not this dumb..hillary has something up her sleeve..
75.) crookedeye - 03/07/2015
you no billy thinks she's hot...
76.) crookedeye - 03/07/2015
we need to get rid of her and jeb bush...they all make me sick.. I don't like any of them..theres a guy from up north..thats getting a lot of interest.. stay tuned...


now GW's a different story he was my all time favorite president..
77.) crookedeye - 03/07/2015
and what about MTV??? what ever happen showing just music videos??
78.) crookedeye - 03/07/2015
they don't even show video's anymore..just shows about pregnant teens and two lesbian girls that are struggling in the big city.... well I guess that ones alright...
79.) bluecat - 03/09/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;30412]and what about MTV??? what ever happen showing just music videos??[/QUOTE]


The funniest segue ever.
80.) bluecat - 03/09/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;30409]hillary has something up her sleeve..[/QUOTE]


It's lard.
81.) billy b - 03/09/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;30410]you no billy thinks she's hot...[/QUOTE]



I guess we no longer have a puke smiley:bang:
82.) Wild Bob - 03/10/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;10870]My Magic 8 Ball says Benghazi will be one of several things that will keep Hillary from running in 2016.

So that's the good news.

The bad news is that someone else just as bad (or worse!) will run in her place. I'm rooting for Lois Lerner...[/QUOTE]

That and the personal email scandal that is about to blow open. :p
83.) bluecat - 03/10/2015
Did you hear where O said he learned about it on the news but they have email correspondence between he and pant suit on the private account.
84.) bluecat - 03/10/2015
Trey Gowdy is also wanting to know where all the emails are during the timeframe of Benghazi...



"Dude, that was like two years ago."
85.) Swamp Fox - 03/10/2015
They don't pay Lanny Davis enough. Carville gets about the right amount, for what he's worth. LOL



See the interviews with those two spin doctors over the last few days if you have low blood pressure. See a real doctor if your head doesn't explode within four hours.

I'll see what the H-bomb had to say about this today a little later...I can't wait....:bang:----The little bit I got so far...I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. Who could have predicted it?
86.) bluecat - 03/10/2015
H-bomb shucked and jived. She avoided any real confrontation by refering one reporter to reread some lengthy document and then ducked out of the interview. You could still hear the chants of "Why did you wait 2 months to turn over your emails?" in the background as she thanked her audience while her handlers whisked her away.

Teflon pant suit.
87.) Swamp Fox - 03/10/2015
Two months? More like close to two years. Call me old-fashioned, but my thinking is that you turn over [I]all [/I] the stuff that doesn't belong to you when you resign (Jan/Feb 2013). To my knowledge, late summer of 2014 is the earliest anything happened, and that [I]portion[/I] of the documents was only pried loose by virtue of a legal crowbar.

It's like sneaking the furniture out of the White House and--- "Ooops! Honest mistake!"---- only returning it when you get caught.


As I said earlier, the poster girl for recordkeeping problems.
88.) bluecat - 03/11/2015
She said that she used her private email account to email Bill. Bill has gone on record to say that he has used email twice in his life and both were not to pant suit.

She also said she only carried one phone (the whole convenience thing she made such a big deal about) but they have her confessing earlier that she carries two.

She said she carries only one phone because she didn't want to have to carry two (one for each email account). She must not know you can have multiple email accounts on one phone.

She said that the server was guarded by the secret service to prevent hacking. Um, that is not how hacking occurs.

No email records exists for the entire time she went to Libya although she was seen with a phone during the trip.
89.) Swamp Fox - 03/11/2015
Well, "Sometimes you have to circumvent the bureaucracy."

LOL

I know Howard Dean is unprincipled, a moron and a loon, but this is extra funny:   


[I]“The State Department is a big bureaucracy,” Dean said. ”I understand why she did this. I don’t think it’s illegal. I have never heard a case it was illegal. Joe makes a case there were regulations, first I’ve heard of it. I am going to defend Hillary Clinton on this. You have to be able to do business, and sometimes you have to circumvent the bureaucracy.”

“How about that regulation, that you’re walking in here saying you know nothing about. I think that’s ridiculous that you’re sitting in that chair pretending you’ve never seen or heard anything about this regulations,” said Scarborough. “Everybody in Washington D.C. is talking about it.”

“Come on Howard!” said an equally incredulous Mika Brzezinski.

Dean told co-host Willie Geist that Clinton may have used the personal email because the State Department’s email was “much more vulnerable” than her personal server.

“Well, it may be that this whole thing is because she wanted security. It may be…to have the State Department being much more vulnerable to hacking than her ISP that she set up.”

“It would be more vulnerable than her personal email?” Geist asked.

“That’s right.” Dean said. “We don’t know.”

“Um. Actually we do,” Brzezinski shot back. “What are you doing?!? What’s going on?!”

“Are you saying that a State Department server in Washington D.C., my head hurts…might be more prone to being hacked than a Homebrew system in Chappaqua?” Scarborough asked

Dean reiterated his belief that this is the case.


[/I]


[url]http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/10/howard-dean-echoes-carville-defends-hillary-sometimes-you-have-to-circumvent-the-bureaucracy-video/[/url]
90.) bluecat - 03/11/2015
Hilarious.

Pant suit also said that she was using the server that was brought over from when blue dress was Prez. If that is the case, that server is way past its prime and most likely is not supported anymore. Great security though. LOL!
91.) Swamp Fox - 03/11/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;30526]Well, "Sometimes you have to circumvent the bureaucracy." ---Howard Dean

LOL

[/QUOTE]


"Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!"


:p
92.) bluecat - 03/11/2015
"Just because some watery tart lobs a sword at you..."
93.) Deerminator - 03/12/2015
D'ya think pant suit will crack before the convention?

better yet ;
D"ya think she'll be the front runner at the convention?
94.) Swamp Fox - 03/12/2015
Magic 8 Ball says she will not be the frontrunner at the convention, possibly because she won't be at the convention, but neither will she crack.

She doesn't have the innate, essential character---some would call it the moral fiber--to crack. You have to have a sense of shame (coming back to that again) to crack, and all Hillary has is an infinite sense of her self-worth and a lust for her own achievement. In reality, that turns out to be not so much achievement as a deep-sea sounding line for wealth accumulated, influence amassed and advanced, and air miles accrued. But that doesn't bother her. It's good to be the queen.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathom[/url]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_sounding[/url]


It's all about her "convenience" as she said in the "press conference" about her emails. She'll play this off as "Move along, nothing to see here" just as she has everything else that inconveniences her ("What difference, at this point, does it make?") and she'll (mostly) get away with it--again-- (Paraphrasing here: "I have no idea how the law firm billing records wound up here in the White House just days after the statute of limitations expired") because the press doesn't want to be too press-y to someone with a uterus, at least not if it tilts left.


[url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/docs/recs.html[/url]

[url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/docs/floorplan.html[/url]

[url]http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/female-infertility/multimedia/tipped-uterus/img-20008147[/url]



[I]And the first lady, who had chosen not to release or summarize the billing records back in 1992 when they were readily available, now reacted as though she wished they could have been made public from the start.

"I was delighted when these documents showed up. I want everybody to know everything because frankly there's a lot about this I don't remember. It happened 10, 11 years ago. I've done the best I can," she told Diane Rehm in the Jan. 15 interview.

"There would be no reason for anyone I know, including myself, not to have wanted them to come out years ago," she told interviewer Harry Smith on the CBS Morning News on Jan. 19, adding: "Why on earth would I not want them out? I would have published them in the paper if I'd known."

Why, if Hillary Clinton saw the records in 1992, as appears likely, would her position on their release change so clearly from then to this year? In 1992, publication of the records would have raised questions that might have sunk her husband's nascent presidential campaign. Some of his political advisers later acknowledged that a third area of controversy – involving money, following earlier ones about sex and war – would have proved fatal. It is the peculiar fate of the Clintons and Whitewater that the controversy has been around for two presidential election cycles. By 1996, the safer course for the White House became a posture of full disclosure.
[/I]


Details of the whole sordid affair, as we knew them in 1996; Same old Hillary in 2015:

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr960602.htm[/url]



An article more tightly focused on the billing records and their mysterious re-discovery, if you're short on time or are just sick of her enough already:

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/06/us/elusive-papers-of-law-firm-are-found-at-white-house.html[/url]
95.) Swamp Fox - 03/12/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;30503]



"Dude, that was like two years ago."[/QUOTE]



Well, that didn't take long. :re:


This just in today:






Jen Psaki psays "I think this has been asked...It was more than two years ago...I don't have an update on that specific question at this point."


But the real question is, "Will it be answered?"----LOL


The form they're talking about is the form you sign when you leave service confirming that you've turned over all your records and acknowledging your understanding that you may face criminal penalties if you have withheld, concealed or mislead.
96.) bluecat - 03/13/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;30548]Magic 8 Ball says she will not be the frontrunner at the convention, possibly because she won't be at the convention, but neither will she crack.

She doesn't have the innate, essential character---some would call it the moral fiber--to crack. You have to have a sense of shame (coming back to that again) to crack, and all Hillary has is an infinite sense of her self-worth and a lust for her own achievement. In reality, that turns out to be not so much achievement as a deep-sea sounding line for wealth accumulated, influence amassed and advanced, and air miles accrued. But that doesn't bother her. It's good to be the queen.
[/QUOTE]

brilliant
97.) Swamp Fox - 03/13/2015
Naw, that's not brilliant.

[I]This[/I] is brilliant....





Tip o' the hat to Crocodile Dundee. :wink
98.) Deerminator - 03/13/2015
Any thoughts on HOW? or WHY? pant suit has been protected for sooooo loooonng .
99.) bluecat - 03/13/2015
I think a lot of fat, uninformed woman voters with philandering husbands can relate to wanting to get ahead in the world. :-)
100.) Swamp Fox - 03/13/2015
[QUOTE=Deerminator;30554]Any thoughts on HOW? or WHY? pant suit has been protected for sooooo loooonng .[/QUOTE]


She doesn't get the same free pass that Bill or 0 get, but she does have plenty of people who will spin fairytales for her, and between Corruption Eruptions (her version of Bill's Bimbo Eruptions) she's unopposed if not outright held up by the press as the World's Most Accomplished Woman, Best Secretary of State Ever, etc., which is its own kind of support. So "protected" is probably the right word.

She's not the only woman out there, though, LOL. Unfotunately, her gender seems to be her chief selling point. Don't expect the protective press to question whether that should be an issue, but if the Republicans were talking about wanting a woman or a black guy or ---Two Points!---a black woman to be president because of her sex and/or race, we'd quickly go deaf from the blast of Democrat outrage for thinking that way.

I think that Dems in general are starting to see the problem(s) with Hillary (excepting the sychophants), and then there is the fact that she's not liberal enough for the far left wing of the Democratic Party, which seems to be driving the bus for the last few election cycles. So I think she'll get some competition if she decides to run, and I'll go out on a limb to predict it will be stiff.
101.) Deerminator - 03/13/2015
How could Hillary make anything stiff
102.) bluecat - 03/13/2015
:applause:
103.) Swamp Fox - 03/13/2015
LOL...

I was thinking about something the other day: What's life like for Bill? Not just this email thing blowing up to give us all flashbacks, but you know Hillary either has his balls in a vise or they have a special arrangement which will become legendary when and if it ever becomes known. Americans will be talking about it for centuries, like George Washington's wooden teeth.

They might be speaking Farsi, but they'll be talking about it.
104.) Swamp Fox - 03/13/2015
[B]The happy couple running for co-president back in the day: [/B]









I was gonna use this picture in the Official Picture Caption thread, but maybe here's just as good, LOL.
105.) bluecat - 03/13/2015
Bill's having fun with his new girlfriend nicknamed the Energizer Bunny.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2700882/Bill-Clinton-busty-mistress-nicknamed-Energizer-Secret-Service-works-hide-Hillary.html[/url]

Well that and he emails Hillary a lot...
106.) bluecat - 03/13/2015
"I [B]won't[/B] have what she's having."
107.) Swamp Fox - 03/13/2015
Another Hillary email account has surfaced:



[email]BillStayAwayFromThatSlut@IWillKillYou.com[/email]



(I stole that one too)
108.) Floyd - 03/13/2015
One of the Clinton's neighbors no knows....

109.) Swamp Fox - 03/13/2015
:laugh:
110.) Swamp Fox - 03/13/2015
To prove that she's just a regular grandma, Hillary recently made sure she was seen shopping for bananas...


[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/12/spiders-bananas-erection_n_6859190.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592[/url]
111.) Bob Peck - 03/17/2015
[COLOR="#A52A2A"]Warning. Warning. Warning. Unpopular View Alert!!![/COLOR]

Archery is my favorite sport.

President bashing is not my favorite sport but it's the American way. No matter who is our commander in chief we must tear them down. Presidents are responsible for all that is perceived wrong and conversely get no credit for anything that they are perceived to have done right. I don't understand why anyone would ever want to be president.

One thing is always true. Someone elects the president into office and in some cases not once, but twice. This is also the American way as are the various conspiracy theories on why/how elections turn a certain way. It's called democracy. It's messy, imperfect and IMO needs a makeover.

P.S I didn't vote for Obama either time.

Hilary bashing is not my favorite sport. I am not a Hilary fan. Those who know me would never characterize me as a Hilary fan even when she was my Senator. I never voted for her. I can't ever see a day when I would vote for her. I don't relish the thought of her as President but ...

The two-party system pits one candidate who sucks against another candidate who sucks less with some carnival candidates thrown in for distraction. The carnival candidates either take votes from the ones who suck or are pretending they want the job to better publicize whatever it is they "stand" for. Regardless, the carnival candidates never stand any real chance of winning anything.

Here's my point of view:

1.
Americans don't care enough about Benghazi *or* the recent email scandal to pass on Hilary. Her brand is teflon and nothing sticks. Neither Benghazi or email flap is enough of a fact-based smoking gun. Both will continue to grind on until they sputter out and disappear off the radar. We can huff and puff and stamp our feet all we want but neither is going to blow Hilary's house down.

2.
Without a smoking gun Hilary will run and she will win unless Republicans come up with somebody better than Scott Walker, Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Rand Paul, etc.,etc. Hilary will be our next President. Her brand will carry her as it always has in the past.

Do I like this? Do I want this? Not one little bit but not for the reasons you might suspect. Hilary as President means a minimum of another 4 years of whining, bashing, obstructionism from both parties and another 4 years of stalled and dysfunctional American gov't.
112.) bluecat - 03/17/2015
...so, are your brackets all filled out? :-)
113.) Swamp Fox - 03/17/2015
Hillary is her own smoking gun.

Since she's not black or Hispanic (that we know of yet), she'll have to run on her uterus.

It won't be pretty, and she may decide $200,000 an hour talking about her air miles to university groups and trade associations looks better than figuring out what to do with the Presidential Limo after she's chased it down and gotten a mouthful of tire.
114.) bluecat - 03/17/2015
+ 3 for uterus reference.
115.) Bob Peck - 03/17/2015
You guys are absolutely a riot.
116.) Deerminator - 03/18/2015
Pant suit or Monica
117.) bluecat - 03/18/2015
I'm going with the Hampton Pirates to win it all. :-)

They have the biggest chip on their shoulder. I'm betting the house and when I win I'm going to buy some land adjacent to the Drury Brothers and show Luv2 how it's done.
118.) bluecat - 03/18/2015
[QUOTE=Deerminator;30613]Monica[/QUOTE]

You mean 'mulva'?
119.) Deerminator - 03/18/2015
:laugh: why yes, yes I did.:-)
120.) Swamp Fox - 03/20/2015
.....
121.) Deerminator - 03/21/2015
That's good.:tu:
122.) bluecat - 03/21/2015
Good one Swamp.
123.) The Old Man - 03/26/2015
Bill Clinton started jogging near his home in Chappaqua.
But on each run he happened to jog past a hooker standing on the same street corner, day after day.
With some apprehension he would brace himself as he approached her for what was most certainly to follow.
"Fifty dollars!" she would cry out from the curb.
"No, Five dollars!" fired back Clinton. This ritual between Bill and the hooker continued for days.
He'd run by and she'd yell, "Fifty dollars!"
And he'd yell at her,"Five dollars!"
One day however, Hillary decided that she wanted to accompany her husband on his jog!
As the jogging couple neared the problematic street corner, Bill realized the "pro" would bark her $50 offer and Hillary would wonder what he'd really been doing on all his past outings.
He realized he should have a darn good explanation for the former Secretary of State.
As they jogged into the turn that would take them past the corner, Bill became even more apprehensive than usual. Sure enough, there was the hooker!
Bill tried to avoid the prostitute's eyes as she watched the pair jog past.
Then, from the sidewalk, the hooker yelled , "See what you get for five bucks!!!
124.) billy b - 03/26/2015
:hb::grin::grin::grin::grin::tu:very nice:wink
125.) Deerminator - 03/26/2015
:laugh::laugh:Excelent!!
126.) Swamp Fox - 03/26/2015
LOL...:beer:
127.) Swamp Fox - 03/26/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;30700]Good one Swamp.[/QUOTE]


I just noticed it's been deleted by whoever hosted it, but I don't even remember what it was. It was only four days ago, dagnabit! LOL Time for some ginko bologna or sumpn...


Somebody remind me what the video was so I don't drive myself nuts the rest of the day, LOL...
128.) Swamp Fox - 03/26/2015
Okay,, I remember now....The coffee must have kicked in....It was the "Stay Secretive, My Friends" spoof on Hill's email habits...


Here's something to enjoy in its place:


Stay in your lane, my friends...

[url]http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/03/25/cardboard-most-interesting-man-fails-as-carpool-lane-ruse/[/url]






[url]http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/03/25/cardboard-most-interesting-man-fails-as-carpool-lane-ruse/[/url]
129.) Wild Bob - 03/26/2015
So since you drug out the 'Worlds Most Interesting Man'...

I've got to show you a tee shirt my wife bought me this past Christmas:

[URL=http://s763.photobucket.com/user/WildBob_2009/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150117_085634_zpsnophbcre.jpg.html][/URL]
130.) Swamp Fox - 03/26/2015
LOL...


Good to see you wearing pants, too!


:tap::wink:laugh:


:applause:
131.) Wild Bob - 03/26/2015
Pretty lame huh (the 'pants' that is :re:)...bear in mind that this picture was taken when I was laid up after my surgery.
132.) Deerminator - 03/26/2015
:-):-):-)
133.) bluecat - 03/30/2015
Hillary Clinton confirms she wiped her email server.

[url]http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/28/hillary-clinton-confirms-email-server-wipe/[/url]



Dang, so close...
134.) Deerminator - 03/30/2015
Go figure:cf:
135.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
Hillary Clinton goes unnoticed in Ohio Chipotle

[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/04/14/hillary-clinton-chipotle/25752159/[/url]


So much for kissing backs and slapping babies.

:laugh:
136.) Swamp Fox - 04/14/2015
LOL...Well, I was wrong about her not running. I thought it was common sense that someone who's a poor campaigner and has trouble relating to disinterested people and media alike-- with a track record of scandal, failure and zero accomplishments---would not run, particularly on the heels of the Obama disaster.

But it looks like the Dems have no one to put up in her place, whether willing or able. Not sure I've ever heard media criticism of the Dems elevating establishment candidates and promoting within a hierarchy, with resulting stagnation, the way you do about Republicans, [I]ad nauseum[/I]. But here they are.

Running for President again keeps Hillary's brand and influence alive, though, and boosts the price of those speaking fees and book deals up into the stratosphere. (Is there any doubt there will be at least one more book?) Whether she wins or loses, I don't think there's much chance that the Clintons will ever be dead broke again, so that should help Bill and Hill and all the rest of us sleep better.

If she had decided not to run and just stayed home to bake cookies and be a grandma, though, I'm sure it would have been certain ruin. :wink
137.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
The only one who didn't know if Hillary was going to run for President was Hillary.

It gives us something to talk about on an archery forum anyway. :-)
138.) Swamp Fox - 04/14/2015
LOL..

I wonder how DP's doing in that new truck? Probably has all his instrument gauges synched with his smartphone, and prints them out in color charts with circles and arrows every 25 miles...wirelessly...
139.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
I think he is probably gearing up so that when he comes back to the forum as permanent contest manager he'll be able to uplink and run the latest results as they happen in real time, print out pie charts, bar charts, scatter plots showing regional trends and compare historical statistical data all while he is driving to Taco Bell.
140.) Swamp Fox - 04/14/2015
:p

Taco Bell has some new stuff for breakfast these days...Some kind of taco biscuit...I think they're going for the Southern Mexican market. They do have some pretty good commercials. If I ever get near one of these taco biscuits, I'll let you all know how it tastes.

Also, I don't know why you need or how you use an app and/or Google to put a biscuit in your cakehole, but I guess we're in a brave new world :re:...

[url]http://www.tacobell.com/static_files/TacoBell/StaticAssets/documents/mobileapp/mobileapp.html?key=socialdefault[/url]


:bang:
141.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
Food is getting very difficult. LOL!
142.) Swamp Fox - 04/14/2015
It's probably all over Facebook and Twitter...

I mean, if it's on Hunting Country, eventually it has to filter down to that level...LOL
143.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
You watch, we'll evolve to the point that when someone's smart phone loses power we won't know how to get food.
144.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
We already can't read maps or make change or talk face to face.


brb, I have a text coming in...
145.) Swamp Fox - 04/14/2015
LOL...I don't even know what brb means...Is that a sound, or does it stand for something, like Ur2cool?

:-)
146.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
Sometimes it means "Be Right Back" but in this case it was the chili (with beans) I had last night.
147.) Swamp Fox - 04/14/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;31170]You watch, we'll evolve to the point that when someone's smart phone loses power we won't know how to get food.[/QUOTE]


I was in the grocery store yesterday looking for a date for the weekend and I was pushing one of the big buggies, since they're almost always out of the little bachelor-sized ones that are just right for hauling my beer, toilet paper, and a few products from the meat department. I think the store keeps the fleet understocked just to annoy me.

So anyway, driving this monstrosity, I round this corner where the drug store shelves jut out toward the food shelves, and the gap between the two sets of shelves forms a corridor that normal people can operate as a two-lane across the breadth of the store.

Well, right at the end of one set of shelves, with his own huge cart with two items in it, blocking not only travel along the corridor but also turns around the aisles, is this dopey goth kid with the ridiculous skinny jeans and the goofy canvas high-top Converse (or are they Keds?) and the hair dyed jet black, shaved on one side and draped down the other in a slant like a European heroin model. I think it was male, but it's hard to tell sometimes when both the jeans and the hairdo are effeminate and the body type is "toothpick" or "clove cigarette." I mean, Avril Lavigne and Orianthi looked kinda cute in canvas tennis shoes, but boys over the age of 12, say, just look like dorks in them, and then you put skinny jeans on them and a stupid haircut and there's no wonder these kids don't talk with anyone except digitally.





So anyway, here's this special little snowflake at the end of the aisle, nose-down in his/her Iphone, leaning on his/her Titanic-sized buggy, oblivious to the world around him/her, much less the people he/she was obstructing. I stood at his/her 1 o'clock trying to make my turn for a good 20 or 30 seconds as other people worked around him/her.

I finally decided it was a he because of the pimples and peach fuzz and the slightly more belligerant attitude he displayed when the passage of time and the wordless eye-rolling of passersby finally shamed him into looking up and getting out of the way.

Some people just deserve a punch in the head, LOL.

Unfortunately, he might be voting in two or three years, and it might not help.
148.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
:laugh: It was so descriptive, I was there with you. That was some funny right there.
149.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
This may help Hillary's campaign managers.

150.) bluecat - 04/14/2015
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2015/04/13/10-totally-unplanned-stops-on-hillary-clintons-spontaneous-road-trip/[/url]


She’s not just running — she’s driving! Well, passenging. Politico reports: “While she has no planned pit stops on her road trip — which was her own idea — the candidate stopped by a gas station in Pennsylvania on Sunday. She later tweeted a picture of the stop, saying, “Road trip! Loaded the van & set off for IA. Met a great family when we stopped this afternoon. Many more to come. -H”

That’s right. Hillary Clinton is taking a Spontaneous Totally Unplanned Road Trip. Nothing says “Hillary Clinton 2.0″ like “Spontaneous, Totally Unplanned Things That Revolve Around Real People (TM).”

Chuck Todd praised the gesture, tweeting, “So hard in this new media age to do anything that looks spontaneous to political world. This Hillary road trip idea has done just that.”

I can’t wait to see what the road trip includes. No copies of the following itinerary were provided to the media, because, again, this trip is Spontaneous Hillary 2.0.

10. Surprise picture with totally unprepared students who just happen to be painting a detailed American flag mural on a wall and may or may not feel spontaneously moved to sing and sign “God Bless America.”

9. Meet-and-greet at a rest-stop McDonald’s with 10 stunned locals.[B] You can tell these locals were stunned because all of them are wearing pins that read “I Do Not Expect to Run Into Hillary Clinton Today.”[/B] :laugh:

[B]8. At exactly 11:43 a.m., a bluebird may just happen to land on Hillary Clinton’s shoulder.[/B] :laugh:

7. A parade may or may not be going through town that just might need some kind of marshal to stand on the middle float or something.

6. Three-fourths of a string quartet might happen to be standing in front of a Pennsylvania filling station, needing someone who can play the viola part of “Nearer My God to Thee” — something it turns out that Hillary Clinton just might be able to do, flawlessly.

5. A small hopeful child, a farmer, an old man with a raven and two old women with spindles may or not all be encountered at exactly the points along the journey that would make most sense for the narrative.

[B]4. Hillary Clinton may or may not encounter a crowd waving palm fronds and shouting “We Just Happen to Be Shouting Hosanna, Whether or Not Anyone Is Heading This Way” as she emerges from an Exxon just off the interstate.[/B] :laugh:

3. Three proud Iowans may or may not be standing casually next to a stop sign practicing a choreographed dance that Hillary Clinton — in a sudden stroke of luck — might just be able to execute flawlessly.

2. A sword will just happen to be in a stone at an Iowa rest stop, waiting for someone to pull it out.

1. Hillary Clinton will have several normal relatable human interactions with real people that were not in any way planned or choreographed and will doubtless look great on Instagram!
151.) Swamp Fox - 04/14/2015
Thanks. I'll be here all week...:wink


Sad, isn't it? :bang: :-) LOL


[QUOTE=bluecat;31171]We already can't read maps or make change or talk face to face.


brb, I have a text coming in...[/QUOTE]


The map thing is so true.

When I ask people to give me directions to a meeting or a store or something, I'd say a good 80% of the time they say, "Do you have GPS?" and I want to say, "Yeah I have two really good ones, but they're for hunting and fishing out in the middle of nowhere, not for finding your office with a street number on a named road when you can just tell me how to get there."

:re::-)


Speaking of hunting and fishing :shocked: :shh: :p, I was talking to a fishing guide a year or two ago and I happened to mention topo maps (submerged structure and underwater contours) and probably said something like I wish I could find a new copy for Lake X because my old one was getting ratty, or maybe I asked about one for Lake Y because I'd never seen one in 30 years of looking.

On the other end of the phone, he laughed, and said, "No one uses paper maps anymore." Maybe it's almost literally true, but I've never seen a complete library of digital underwater topo maps on fishfinders or otherwise, so I'd stoop to using a paper map if it was the only kind I could get, or I didn't want to squint at a fishfinder screen all day.
152.) Swamp Fox - 04/14/2015
Ruh-ro! Something smelly in the Scooby van...Check the bottom of your shoes, LOL.
153.) Deerminator - 04/15/2015
a great opportunity for someone to give her the finger.:tu:
154.) bluecat - 04/15/2015
:wave:

More than 2 MILLION of Hillary Clinton's Twitter followers are fake or never tweet – and she's already under fire for 'buying' fake Facebook fans

Two different online audit tools say no more than 44 per cent of Hillary's 3.6 million Twitter fans are real people who participate in the platform


[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038621/More-2-MILLION-Hillary-Clinton-s-Twitter-followers-fake-never-tweet.html#ixzz3XOVgfvkZ[/url]
155.) Swamp Fox - 04/15/2015
LOL...


If no one has coined the phrase already, I'd like to begin using the term "Pantsuit Nation"....

This would be an all-encompassing reference to the real and the fake Hillary fans, and the real and fake Hillary.

What are the odds that Anthony Weiner is named to assist his wife (one of Hillary's top aides) as social media coordinator?

He and Bill could work together if Houma is too busy with other stuff.
156.) bluecat - 04/15/2015
:grin: I like it.
157.) bluecat - 04/15/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;31212]LOL...


If no one has coined the phrase already, I'd like to begin using the term "Pantsuit Nation"....

This would be an all-encompassing reference to the real and the fake Hillary fans, and the real and fake Hillary.

What are the odds that Anthony Weiner is named to assist his wife (one of Hillary's top aides) as social media coordinator?

He and Bill could work together if Houma is too busy with other stuff.[/QUOTE]

That would make Bill and Anthony marital aids.
158.) Swamp Fox - 04/15/2015
:laugh:
159.) Deerminator - 04/15/2015
:laugh::applause:
160.) bluecat - 04/21/2015
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/hillary-clinton-dodges-question-clinton-cash-book-30455528[/url]

Is that a teflon pant suit you are wearing or are you just running for president?
161.) bluecat - 05/19/2015
[url]http://nypost.com/2015/05/19/hillary-clinton-had-a-second-secret-e-mail-address/[/url]


Clinton’s office insisted just two months ago that the only private email address used by the former secretary of state during her tenure was [email]hdr22@clintonemail.com[/email].

In a 2015 letter to Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC), Clinton’s lawyer acknowledged that the HRod17 email address existed, but stated explicitly that it was “not an address that existed during Secretary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state.”

The time stamps and content of the messages make clear that this statement was inaccurate, according to the Times report.





Damn women, trouble just keeps following you around.
162.) Swamp Fox - 05/19/2015
Sleaze and deception and shady associations involving one of the Clintons? I'm shocked...Shocked, I tell you.


At least she keeps up with old friends...which is more than I can say about some people...:wink



[I]Blumenthal wasn't supposed to be interacting with the State Department. In fact, he was prohibited from doing so, at least informally, by the Obama Administration. And while he was ostensibly advising Hillary Clinton, he was also working for the Clinton Foundation, as a paid consultant to Media Matters and as a consultant to Clinton's formative 2016 campaign.

Read more at [url]http://spectator.org/blog/62765/sidney-blumenthal-resurfaces-time-hillarys-state-department[/url]
[/I]




[url]http://thehill.com/policy/defense/242450-gop-may-subpoena-clinton-aide-blumenthal-on-benghazi[/url]
163.) bluecat - 05/19/2015
...and yet, so many people continue to support her. By support I mean will vote for her. No one can support that immense ass.
164.) Deerminator - 05/19/2015
THAT'S the best the democrats can come up with .
165.) Swamp Fox - 05/19/2015
Well, between Hillary "What Diffference Does It Make" Clinton and Elizabeth 'Speaking Bull" Warren, ya gotta go with the white girl...LOL







(Remember when Hillary broke out her "African- American" dialect and delivery while speaking at a black church during her last campaign? LOL...It's the definition of cringe-inducing, so I won't replay it...Tightens my stomach into a knot and makes my teeth hurt...:bang::td::bang:)
166.) bluecat - 05/20/2015
Good one.
167.) bluecat - 05/20/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;31986]
(Remember when Hillary broke out her "African- American" dialect and delivery while speaking at a black church during her last campaign? LOL...It's the definition of cringe-inducing, so I won't replay it...Tightens my stomach into a knot and makes my teeth hurt...:bang::td::bang:)[/QUOTE]

Do your teeth also hurt when Oblama talks in his Hispanic accent when saying the word Chicano? Makes me sick.
168.) Swamp Fox - 05/20/2015
LOL...Yeah, it is more than a little jarring. He's not the only one who goes Latin when a place name or something Hispanic comes up, though. When I was growing up, there was a country called Chilly. Somewhere along the way, somebody had a vote and it became Chee-lay...Sorry, but it's still Chilly to me.

Why don't we all start calling Paris Paree?

Stupid twits...

My favorite is when he calls Pakistan "Pockeest-on"...

But he is our first gay president, so I guess you have to cut him a little slack...
169.) Swamp Fox - 05/20/2015
BTW, do you realize you have to go back five generations to claim affirmative action privilege for 1/32 genealogy? I just thought I'd put that in perspective, like how many miles into the atmosphere the national debt would go if you stacked the dollar bills on top of one another.

Five freakin' generations to check off a race box...

If she's Cherokee, I'd have to say I'm an Irish potato farmer...Actually, I can go back farther than that: I'm a leprechaun, and also part Druid.

Btw: Interesting factoid: The Warren Cherokee thing seems to be complete fantasy with no evidence to back it up (in case you didn't already suspect that). The line that the Cherokee blood supposedly comes from seems to be lily white NC frontier settler, with court documents right here in this county from the mid-to-late 1700's showing a forebearer of Warren's testifying in regards to the marriage of one of the probable [B]ancestors of my taxidermist!
[/B]
How's that for a small world?
170.) bluecat - 05/20/2015
It's more than enough to raise someone's (with a conscience) hackles.

My great grandmother was full blooded injun. What do [B]I[/B] get?
171.) Swamp Fox - 05/20/2015
Two tokes on a peace pipe instead of just one?
172.) bluecat - 05/20/2015
[url]http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/19/its-now-clear-the-stunning-negligence-that-led-up-to-chris-stevens-death-in-benghazi/[/url]


Two smoking guns hit the news streams this week: The U.S. indeed had a gun-running program pipelining Libyan weapons to Syrian rebels through a port in Benghazi; and at least some “intelligence” on action in Libya passed through not one, but at least two of Hillary Clinton’s “homebrew” email addresses.

It’s Clinton’s reliance on her civilian email servers for seemingly classified communications (indeed, all Department of State communications), coupled with the real nature of the mission in Benghazi, that lay bare the negligence leading up to the attack that took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens and two former Navy SEALs.

In the November following the attack, The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. mission in Benghazi was “at its heart, a CIA operation.” It turns out the CIA Annex that had its cover blown during the attack was more than likely the central hub of an international gun running operation.

A source told Fox News two weeks after the attack that Stevens was in Benghazi meeting a Turkish diplomat to “negotiate a weapons transfer, in an effort to get SA-7 missiles out of the hands of violent extremists.” One hour after Stevens showed him the door, local Libyan guards “abandoned their posts” and the assault began.
173.) bluecat - 05/20/2015
Now this is funny. "War on woman"



Hillary Clinton Demands Equal Pay But Doesn’t Put Her Money Where Her Mouth Is

Hillary Clinton has long positioned herself as a champion of equal pay for women. Ironically, new reports show that the former Secretary of State is, herself, part of the problem.

During her time in the U.S. Senate, Clinton paid women in her office 72 cents for each dollar paid to men, according to a report by Washington Free Beacon.

Analyzing data obtained from official Senate expenditure reports, Free Beacon concluded that the median annual salary for female staffers was $15,708.38 less than the median salary for men, between 2002 to 2008.


[url]http://www.ijreview.com/2015/02/257200-hillary-clinton-paid-female-staff-28-percent-less-men/[/url]
174.) Swamp Fox - 05/20/2015
When the mandatory minimum wage comes up, check whether either Hillary or Pocahontas use unpaid interns...

I know at least one of them does, more likely both.

I don't have a problem with it, but I would enjoy seeing either one of those two control freaks explain it.
175.) bluecat - 05/20/2015
How bout that police department in Waco? They were all over that.

"Hey Frank, Can you go to Lowes, we're gonna need some more zip ties."
176.) Swamp Fox - 05/20/2015
Those Bandidos give the rest of the banditos a bad name...

I'd like to see the professionally offended lobby try to shut down those Bandidos the way they got rid of the Frito Bandito...LOL


Original:




Politically correct revision (still wasn't good enough):





Sing along with me...You know you want to:




177.) crookedeye - 05/20/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;31984]...and yet, so many people continue to support her. By support I mean will vote for her. No one can support that immense ass.[/QUOTE]

you no billys checking that ass out... you no he is,...with that man suit on and those glasses...she's lookin fine..
178.) Swamp Fox - 05/20/2015
LOL...


You know how the ladies all love Michelle Obama's arms? Are we ready for them to start wishing they had Hillary's cankles?
179.) Hunter - 05/20/2015
Speaking of Waco, I don't understand why the law didn't kill a bunch more bikers when they opened fire on deputies?
180.) crookedeye - 05/20/2015
the cops are blaming the twin peaks owners..??? as I understand the cops where there before it all went down...i'm tempted to call my old group back the dandilions and make a trip to texas and straighten this stuff up...
181.) Deerminator - 05/20/2015
sick'm CE
182.) crookedeye - 05/20/2015
when me and deerminator used to ride together, chit like this wouldn't happen..
183.) billy b - 05/21/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;32002]the cops are blaming the twin peaks owners..??? as I understand the cops where there before it all went down...i'm tempted to call my old group back the dandilions and make a trip to texas and straighten this stuff up...[/QUOTE]



I wish you would come to Texas, you would rip your tail off trying to turn your azz around to run home.:lol:
184.) Swamp Fox - 05/21/2015
LOL...

I'd like to see the video from that road trip. :grin:
185.) bluecat - 05/21/2015
Who would be responsible for reading Deerminator his bedtime story? CE?
186.) bluecat - 05/28/2015
If no one is around to hear Hillary Clinton's Southern accent, does it exist?

[url]http://www.vox.com/2015/5/27/8673713/hillary-clinton-campaign-drawl[/url]


Go Hillary 2016!
187.) bluecat - 05/28/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;32004]when me and deerminator used to ride together, chit like this wouldn't happen..[/QUOTE]

CE, did you and Deerminator earn your cuts?
188.) Deerminator - 05/28/2015
Each of us earned our TCOB badge. With new colors.:hb:
189.) bluecat - 05/29/2015
I don't know what that is but did you have to kill someone to get it?
190.) billy b - 05/29/2015
:omg:
191.) Deerminator - 05/29/2015
YES.
192.) bluecat - 06/17/2015
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/17/gowdy-blumenthal-not-author-benghazi-memos-to-clinton/[/url]

From the article:

Blumenthal's role in sending the near-monthly missives emerged when nearly 350 pages of emails about the 2012 attacks on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi were publicly released last month.

Fox News learned that Blumenthal's attorney handed over 60 emails, totaling nearly 180 pages.

Those documents, though, were never made available by the State Department.

It was unclear whether the State Department withheld them, or whether they were never provided by Hillary Clinton to the department for review.

"Clearly, the committee should have gotten this information sooner," Gowdy told reporters before the session.
193.) bluecat - 08/12/2015
Judge Napolitano, Trey Gowdy: Hillary Could Face Email Criminal Prosecution

Warning! Contains graphic content. Avert thine eyes.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com [url]http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/hillary-clinton-email-trey-gowdy-fbi/2015/08/12/id/669749/#ixzz3id2x7wgZ[/url]
194.) DParker - 08/12/2015
[video=youtube;Prls6Iz3B3E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prls6Iz3B3E[/video]
195.) bluecat - 08/12/2015
:applause:
196.) bluecat - 08/12/2015
Hey we made to 20 pages without any horseplay! :wink
197.) Swamp Fox - 08/12/2015
LOL...Good one, DP!


Hillary For Prison Date 2016!

:tu:
198.) Swamp Fox - 08/12/2015
Interestingly, Bill hasn't inquired about conjugal visits...
199.) DParker - 08/13/2015
BTW, if you've never seen it that's actually a really good movie ([i]Downfall[/i]...the same flick that the Hitler-ranting-in-the-bunker-scene that has been the basis of countless other dubbed videos is from).

In fact, it's a really good movie whether you've seen it or not.
200.) Swamp Fox - 08/13/2015
LOL...:tu:
201.) luv2bowhunt - 08/13/2015
That's Hillary-ious DP.:tu:
202.) bluecat - 08/13/2015
My favorite part is when the one officer addressed the other - "Hey Dude".
203.) Hunter - 08/13/2015
I bet Huma Abedin is puckering up right about now...... Who is going to take the fall over Clinton's server?
Hmmmm

From "The Blaze"

.....This brings up an interesting scenario. Of late, the pushback from Team Hillary is that any classified material on the server wasn’t sent or received by Hillary Clinton. For purposes of 18 USC 1924, that’s irrelevant; the server was put in place by Hillary Clinton, owned by her, and located in her house. If any classified material went through it, Hillary Clinton is as legally responsible for retaining it illegally as her aides would have been for transmitting it, and just the retention is a crime. But if Hillary didn’t send or receive it, who did? No wonder Huma’s lawyering up, although she might want to rethink the idea of keeping a former Clinton aide on the team.
204.) Swamp Fox - 08/13/2015
Not only that, but the news late last night was that someone scrubbed the classification tag off email between State and Hillary's personal addy, which is a felony.

So, what it looks like is this, at this point: (I haven't heard anything new today because I haven't been listening...)

CIA/NSA (etc. and presumably) sends Top Secret documents (geo-spacial whatchamacallits and all that) to State, and by the time they get to Hillary on her Blueberry, they've somehow lost their Top Secret label. Now, assuming nobody in the intelligence community is stupid enough to mishandle outgoing mail like that in the first place, the interesting activity is in a line between State and Hillary.

Either somebody on Hillary's end got in-between, or somebody at State wanted to cover for Hillary's idiotic communication system and scrubbed it for them.

Doesn't matter. Somebody's in deep doo-doo.
205.) Swamp Fox - 08/13/2015
I would hate for it to be Huma Abedin to take the fall...That would mean her poor child would be raised by Anthony Weiner (her husband), and that just doesn't seem fair or proportional punishment for Mom's poor choice in men and political patrons.
206.) DParker - 08/13/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;33807]So, what it looks like is this, at this point...[/QUOTE]

...what difference does it make?



Hey, someone had to say it.
207.) Swamp Fox - 08/13/2015
You have to wonder what the conversation is like around the breakfast table at the Clintons' humble abode:



[I]Bill's sipping some green tea and nibbling on some turkey bacon, glancing at the news on TV as he prepares to head off to the cigar store.

A story about Hillary comes on, and Bill turns to her and says, "Really, Hilll? Really?"

Biting his lip, he then makes sure he has his pants on and his fly is zipped, and saunters out the door to begin his day...[/I]
208.) bluecat - 08/13/2015
Time to put on the teflon pant suit.
209.) bluecat - 08/13/2015
210.) DParker - 08/13/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;33813][/QUOTE]

* golf clap *
211.) Swamp Fox - 08/13/2015
LOL...
212.) DParker - 08/13/2015
Sung to the tune of "I'm Henry VIII, I Am"...

[i]I'm Hillary the Eighth, I am
Hillary the Eighth, I am, I am
I've been worried 'bout the subpoena next door
But I've been subpoenaed seven times before
And every one involved Hillary (Hillary!)
I'll blame my lover Huma for the scam (the scam!)
I'm the Queen of Lies, I'm Hillary
Hillary the Eighth I am, I am
Hillary the Eighth I am!


[b]Second verse -- same as the first!![/b][/i]
213.) bluecat - 08/13/2015
Mrs. Clinton you've got an ugly daughter...
214.) billy b - 08/13/2015
You guys can't carry a tune in a bucked. But.... I do like the theme of your lyric's:wink
215.) Swamp Fox - 08/13/2015
Now, now, I'm sure Chelsea is a perfectly fine human being, or else why would the [B]N[/B]otorious [B]B[/B]ull [B]C[/B]rap "news organization" hire her for $600,000 to do a handful of puff and nerfball pieces...


[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/06/13/what-did-nbc-newss-chelsea-clinton-do-for-her-600000-salary[/url]



Rachel Maddow, on the other hand, seems to be quite a bit more annoying and worthy of our scorn. And she's like the son the Clintons never had.
216.) bluecat - 08/13/2015


"I hear your mom was under sniper fire too."
217.) Swamp Fox - 08/13/2015
LMAO!


:laugh:

:clap:


Even the Russian judges give you a 10 for that....


(Of course, they dialed it up to 11 for Hillary and her reset button, but that shouldn't detract from your achievement...:wink)
218.) Deerminator - 08/13/2015
EXCELLENT!!!
219.) Swamp Fox - 08/14/2015






220.) Swamp Fox - 08/14/2015
221.) bluecat - 08/14/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;33833][/QUOTE]

That is one smelly dude.
222.) billy b - 08/14/2015
Looks like a rat has been sucking on her hair, ewwwww:duh:
223.) bluecat - 08/14/2015
How dare you put gender identity with that person. People are things and not male and female anymore billy? Wake up. Hello?

[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/13/target-going-gender-neutral-in-some-sections/[/url]

Target stores are undergoing a sex change of sorts.

The retail giant announced last week its stores would begin phasing out some gender-specific product categories and switch to gender-neutral displays and colors after guests complained, or, as a company statement said, “raised important questions.”
224.) bluecat - 08/14/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;33820]Now, now, I'm sure Chelsea is a perfectly fine human being, or else why would the [B]N[/B]otorious [B]B[/B]ull [B]C[/B]rap "news organization" hire her for $600,000 to do a handful of puff and nerfball pieces...


[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/06/13/what-did-nbc-newss-chelsea-clinton-do-for-her-600000-salary[/url]




Rachel Maddow, on the other hand, seems to be quite a bit more annoying and worthy of our scorn. And she's like the son the Clintons never had.[/QUOTE]


If that doesn't work out she can always get a job at the [B]C[/B]linton [B]N[/B]ews [B]N[/B]etwork.
225.) bluecat - 08/14/2015
[QUOTE=billy b;33836]Looks like a rat has been sucking on her hair, ewwwww:duh:[/QUOTE]

As long as it was a gender neutral, non-Christian, vast left wing, transitional rat I'm okay with it.
226.) Swamp Fox - 08/14/2015
Somebody on the tube had a good line I caught a while back...I don't remember if it was a commentator speaking for himself or if it was an actor speaking a line in a script, and I don't even remember the topic...could have been anything from hackysack to working on Bernie Sanders' campaign, LOL...But whatever it was, it gave me a good laugh:


"...Sounds like something a white kid with dreadlocks would do."
227.) Hunter - 08/15/2015
So...., "H" again says she never sent or received classified material on her email server. If I understand her correctly, this server was her only source of communication? I guess that means she never received ANY classified material. Maybe that's true. Maybe "O" didn't trust her with stuff like that! :bang:
228.) Swamp Fox - 08/17/2015
The quote I heard from her one or two days ago was that she never sent or received any information "marked" classified...She was very careful with that word...She's such a huge bag of sleaze...I nearly gagged when I heard her. She and her husband are two of a kind, deserve each other, and deserve to occupy the same status as felons.

The only thing that would be better than to see them get their just desserts would be to see them have to occupy the same prison cell together.
229.) bluecat - 08/17/2015
The total of known classified emails that they have recovered is now up to 60.

She is innocent I tell you. That is why she had her server sent off to be scrubbed with zeros (a form of erasing that prohibits any recovery at all)
230.) Swamp Fox - 08/17/2015
Should I tell you how I *really* feel?...:tap:
231.) bluecat - 08/17/2015
Let 'er rip tater chip.
232.) Deerminator - 08/17/2015
:pop:
233.) DParker - 08/17/2015
And when Hillary's campaign comes crashing down around her, this is the guy who's currently in 2nd place just behind her for the Dem nomination:



And right behind crazy Bernie?



Now just try to get to sleep at night.
234.) bluecat - 08/17/2015


He's kinda furry and seems harmless...
235.) DParker - 08/17/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;33910]https://www.youtube.com/embed/gcaFos-2A94[/QUOTE]

Now someone needs to edit his head onto Bob Ross painting happy trees.
236.) bluecat - 08/17/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;33896]The total of known classified emails that they have recovered is now up to 60.

She is innocent I tell you. That is why she had her server sent off to be scrubbed with zeros (a form of erasing that prohibits any recovery at all)[/QUOTE]

Over 300 now.
237.) Swamp Fox - 08/18/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;33909]And when Hillary's campaign comes crashing down around her, this is the guy who's currently in 2nd place just behind her for the Dem nomination:

......

And right behind crazy Bernie?

......

[B]Now just try to get to sleep at night[/B].[/QUOTE]




[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;31162]LOL...Well, I was wrong about her not running. I thought it was common sense that someone who's a poor campaigner and has trouble relating to disinterested people and media alike-- with a track record of scandal, failure and zero accomplishments---would not run, particularly on the heels of the Obama disaster.

....


Running for President again keeps Hillary's brand and influence alive, though, and boosts the price of those speaking fees and book deals up into the stratosphere. (Is there any doubt there will be at least one more book?) [B]Whether she wins or loses, I don't think there's much chance that the Clintons will ever be dead broke again, so that should help Bill and Hill and all the rest of us sleep better.
[/B]
....

[/QUOTE]



[Emphases mine.]



:bang:
238.) bluecat - 08/19/2015
Ed Henry: "Did you wipe your server clean?"

Billary: "You mean with a cloth or something?"


:re: We've got a live one. She's not gonna go down easy.

Might have to beach her in the shallows.
239.) bluecat - 08/20/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;33911]Now someone needs to edit his head onto Bob Ross painting happy trees.[/QUOTE]



"Let your freak flag fly."
240.) luv2bowhunt - 08/20/2015
241.) billy b - 08/20/2015
That would be my ultimate wish, to see her in prison.
242.) Swamp Fox - 08/21/2015
:tu:
243.) bluecat - 08/24/2015
Clintons Return White House Furniture

“We have been informed that it is being shipped back, and the National Park Service is ready to receive it, take possession of it and take custody of it,” Jim McDaniel, the National Park Service’s liaison to the White House, said Wednesday.

“The property is being returned to government custody until such time that the issues can be resolved. It may well turn out that that property is rightly the personal property of the Clintons.”

Giving Back

After they were criticized for taking $190,000 worth of china, flatware, rugs, televisions, sofas and other gifts with them when they left, the Clintons announced last week that they would pay for $86,000 worth of gifts, or nearly half the amount.

Their latest decision to send back $28,000 in gifts brings to $114,000 the value of items the Clintons have either decided to pay for or return.


[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121856[/url]




Does this remind anyone of the Clampets?
244.) Swamp Fox - 08/24/2015
This is from a few years ago, correct?....It's possible they thought they needed the space for back-up servers and a lot of dust cloths...

Good thing all that stuff was on property guarded by the Secret Service, or Chinese and Russian hackers, escaped prison-mates, or just plain old American criminal couples could have made off with it...



The Clampets were always honest, hard-working hillbillies who got lucky big-time with crude oil.

Hill and Bill are oily and crude, always working honest people until we get lucky and they get hard time.
245.) bluecat - 08/24/2015
I heard about this years ago, the fact that they stole a bunch of stuff, but I heard the fact that they returned it on today's news. I kind of dismissed it then thinking it maybe wasn't true or not wanting to believe they would stoop so low. I'm not understanding why they would have mentioned it today on the news. :cf:
246.) Swamp Fox - 08/24/2015
Probably found some stuff lying out on a table in a back room all of a sudden...
247.) Swamp Fox - 08/24/2015
Or maybe Hillary's claiming she got her scandals mixed up....When she said she never received any classified information, and that she turned over all her work-related items, she really meant to say she was never informed she received any classy items and even if she did, she had worked hard to return them...
248.) The Old Man - 08/29/2015
[URL=http://s272.photobucket.com/user/WhopperStopper/media/Boards/HillerysHaircut_zpswc6bcjw6.png.html][/URL]
249.) billy b - 08/29/2015
Now that's a good one:clap:
250.) Hunter - 08/29/2015
Rolling laughter
251.) DParker - 08/29/2015
[QUOTE=The Old Man;34252][URL=http://s272.photobucket.com/user/WhopperStopper/media/Boards/HillerysHaircut_zpswc6bcjw6.png.html][/URL][/QUOTE]

I just threw up in my mouth a little.
252.) bluecat - 08/31/2015
She's also acquired a new catch phrase, "You're hired".
253.) Swamp Fox - 08/31/2015
:-)

Considering Trump has had high praise for Hillary in the past and given her a bunch of money, is it too early to consider a Trump-Clinton ticket for a third party when their respective campaigns implode?

What would a party led by the Donald and the Hildebeast be named?

I was thinking "The Big Pants Party"...I bet Letterman would let them use that....

Other suggestions?



By the way, have you noticed Trump doesn't say much negative or present much opposition directed at Hillary? At least not that I've noticed. Prefers to attack Republicans, it seems like, but maybe I've missed some throw-away lines. Makes you think. Is it fair to say Trump can get more out of a President Hillary than he can get out of a Republican? I think it's fair to say he and Jeb won't be going out for beers a lot. :re:
254.) Swamp Fox - 08/31/2015
I guess Letterman's company is Worldwide Pants (World Wide?) now that I think of it, so there shouldn't be a conflict. Although World Wide Pants goes pretty well with Hillary's "record of accomplishment" as the greatest Secretary of State ever. I guess Trump is global, as well, or at least his ego is...LOL
255.) bluecat - 08/31/2015
I did hear him say initially that she was the worst secretary of state we've ever had. But lately as you say, he is trying to destroy his Republican opponents. The exchange he's had with Megyn Kelly leaves me a bit baffled. He comes off as a 7th grade bully not mature enough to be President. But then he redeems himself by tossing Jorge Ramos from his Press Conference.

I'm surprised we haven't heard more from Ted Cruz. He might be laying back and waiting for the smoke to clear.

Hildebeast...LOL Good one.
256.) Swamp Fox - 08/31/2015
I think Hildebeast has been around for a while...Pretty sure that got in my brain from somewhere else...But who knows...Maybe another subconscious stroke of genius on my part...LOL...They far outnumber the conscious strokes of genius on my part, by the way...:wink

I do recall that comment about SoS now that you mention it. I think both the Kelly and Ramos incidents were calculated, and aimed at appealing to different groups. He might as well ride the "we hate both parties" wave as long as he can.

I'm sure going after a Fox host won him a ton of points with one batch of disgruntled citizens, and then it's nothing but net for a different group the way he handled Ramos (while at the same time gruntling the previously disgruntled Fans of Megyn/Fans of Fox crowd).

A swish, a slam dunk and a three-pointer from way downtown all in two plays, you might say. The guy may be a genius, except for the no-substance thing...LOL

I think Cruz is playing the long game and waiting for Trump to implode or step aside ("Aabadibadiba...That's all, folks!") and part of the strategy is not to alienate people who are attracted to Trump beforehand. I can believe that of him. Most of the others I think are just clueless as to what to do, gasping for oxygen as long as Trump stays on this roll. Jeb is starting to show a few signs of life, but I can't tell if everyone else is semi-comatose, cleverly lying in wait, or just drowned out by the Trump calliope.
257.) bluecat - 08/31/2015
He needs to focus on the world's most pressing problems such as climate change...:re:
258.) DParker - 10/07/2015
[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-platte-river-networks/"]Employee directed to reduce duration of Clinton's e-mail backup retention wrote to a co-worder, "Starting to think this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy (sic) s**t."[/URL]

259.) bluecat - 10/07/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;35127][URL="http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-platte-river-networks/"]Employee directed to reduce duration of Clinton's e-mail backup retention wrote to a co-worder, "Starting to think this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy (sic) s**t."[/URL]

[/QUOTE]

Big fat liar.
260.) Swamp Fox - 10/07/2015
I was just thinking we might have to go back to talking about politics...LOL
261.) bluecat - 10/07/2015
She always sounds so perplexed that she has been so compliant, complicit, transparent and forthcoming. She had to be reminded by Trey Gowdy that she was subpoened before she gave anything up. LOL.

The day she is sentenced I'm throwing a huge party. Ya'll are welcome.
262.) Swamp Fox - 10/07/2015
LOL...



She's her own vast rightwing conspiracy. :re:
263.) bluecat - 10/07/2015
She always has a catch-phrase too.
264.) Swamp Fox - 10/07/2015
With the Clintons, it depends on what the definition of "definition" is....:tap:
265.) bluecat - 10/07/2015
"Overheated rhetoric, baseless charges trying to somehow gain a footing in the debate and in the primary and really doesn't deserve any comment."
266.) Swamp Fox - 10/07/2015
Considering that the majority of the most influential media outlets will cover for her, I'm not writing her off until I see the house fall on her from the sky, and I can grab those ruby slippers with my own cold hands ...Unless you get them first, LOL...

You have to think Andrea Mitchell is stupid, incompetent or both to believe she did not intentionally misrepresent McCarthy's statement the other day. Now she's crying (not entirely without justification) that Clinton is taking her words and using them to her advantage. I just don't have a lot of sympathy. Sometimes when you're a tool, you just have to admit you're a tool.


[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/andrea-mitchell-hillary-clinton-campaign-ad_5615136ee4b0cf9984d7b212[/url]


[url]http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/michael-mckinney/2015/10/01/andrea-mitchell-what-are-republicans-really-clinton[/url]
267.) DParker - 10/07/2015
That's the single most useful animated GIF I've ever seen. It works with every substantive question she's ever been asked.
268.) Swamp Fox - 10/08/2015
I haven't been able to view the gif if you posted one, DP...I get the dreaded black x box...

But I'm assuming you mean this one,, LOL:



269.) bluecat - 10/08/2015
I get the black box too DP.

I remember that, it was either moments before or moments after she said, "You mean clean it with a cloth or something?"

Heard on Fox News last night where another team of forensic people said that they are predicting > 90% of emails will be recovered. I hope they publish those emails in a book. I'll give them away as Christmas gifts to my wife's liberal family.
Oh the fun that will be.
270.) bluecat - 10/08/2015
The more I watch that the more it looks like an animatronic wax figure. I'm started to get sucked into the vortex. Help.
271.) Swamp Fox - 10/08/2015
"Nobody's asking about this stuff except you guys!" (meaning the press)


Or words to that effect, as she walked away, LOL




"So Mrs. Clinton, what do you think about stamping license plates?"

"What? You mean at the post office?"


:pray:


:wink
272.) bluecat - 10/08/2015
:grin:
273.) Swamp Fox - 10/08/2015
I guess technically it will really be: "What? Like at the post office or something?"


I mean, because, like, she's so spontaneous....:wink
274.) DParker - 10/08/2015
Yeah, that's the right GIF. I don't know what happened to the link in my post. It worked for about an hour or so after I first posted it.
275.) bluecat - 10/08/2015
30,000 emails involving yoga, Chelsea's wedding and memos to Bill.


:wink
276.) Swamp Fox - 10/08/2015
You know the good thing about this whole email thing: Hillary's been able to finally make up her mind and/or reverse her positions "to be on the right side of history" on everything from the pipeline to trade deals, or in the case of that perennial winner for Democrats--gun control---to double down on it. Nothing says back to the future like an assault weapons ban. :re:

Nobody's getting to the left of Herself, by gosh!


[B][SIZE=3]Squirrel![/SIZE][/B]


[url]http://freebeacon.com/issues/new-york-times-mistates-federal-gun-law-hillary-gun-record/[/url]
277.) Swamp Fox - 10/09/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35146]...
Heard on Fox News last night where another team of forensic people said that they are predicting > 90% of emails will be recovered. I hope they publish those emails in a book. I'll give them away as Christmas gifts to my wife's liberal family.
Oh the fun that will be.[/QUOTE]



That would be done during the Feats of Strength segment of the holiday, immediately following the Airing of Grievances, right? :wink


What happens when liberals interact with conservatives over a meal:



278.) Swamp Fox - 10/09/2015
I'm gonna put this up over in the recipe section, too, to boost the activity level around here. but I thought I'd give this thread first shot.

Kudos to the NY [I]Daily News [/I] for understanding that we all wanted to try this version to see what all the fuss is about...They claim this is the recipe worth getting arrested for.

Now we just need a good name for it.

I'll solicit suggestions on the recipe thread so as to not distract from Hillary's quest for the White House...She's made distraction an art form, so she doesn't need any help from me. LOL.


[I]You'll need:

- 1 pound of cooked gemelli pasta.

- 1 ½ ounces of roasted pork bacon crumbles.

- 1 ¾ ounces of roasted jalapeños, chopped coarse.

- 2 ½ cups, 1 tablespoon of cheese sauce. (Union Street Market uses vendor bought sauce. (Here's a delicious cheese sauce recipe from The Kitchn.)

- 3 ¾ ounces of shredded cheddar jack cheese

- ½ teaspoon of spice red pepper, crushed.

Method of Preparation

Assembly:

1. In a large mixing bowl, mix gemelli, cheese sauce, chopped jalapenos, and 1 pound 3 ounces of roasted bacon crumbles. Mix well.

2. Pan spray vegalene into one or two half-sized pans.

3. Evenly divide the mac & cheese mixture into the pans.

4. Cover with parchment and foil.

Time of service:

1. Bake in a 350 degree convection over covered for 30 minutes.

2. Uncover and spread the cheddar/jack/crushed red pepper cheese blend on top.

3. Place back in the oven for 15 minutes or until golden brown.

4. Hold hot for service.


[/I]
279.) DParker - 10/09/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35153][url]http://freebeacon.com/issues/new-york-times-mistates-federal-gun-law-hillary-gun-record/[/url][/QUOTE]

I thought the more appalling story there was the one at this link (on that page): [URL="http://freebeacon.com/issues/government-bans-bacon-on-federal-prison-menus-adds-turkey-substitute/"]Government Bans Bacon on Federal Prison Menus, Adds Turkey Substitute[/URL]

I'm pretty sure that's unconstitutional per the "cruel and unusual punishments" clause of Amendment VIII.
280.) bluecat - 10/09/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35159][I]You'll need:

- 1 pound of cooked gemelli pasta.
[/I][/QUOTE]

Can we substitute Fusilli pasta? :wink
281.) Swamp Fox - 10/09/2015
I don't know what either of those are. All I know is spaghetti, elbows and shells...And whatever those square things are that you make ravioli and lazonya with...LOL...
282.) DParker - 10/09/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35165]Can we substitute Fusilli pasta? :wink[/QUOTE]

It was a million-to-one shot, Doc!!! A million-to-one!!!!

283.) bluecat - 10/09/2015
:applause:
284.) Swamp Fox - 10/09/2015
LOL...
285.) Swamp Fox - 10/09/2015
Well, [B]now[/B] I remember...LOL
286.) Swamp Fox - 10/09/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;35163]I thought the more appalling story there was the one at this link (on that page): [URL="http://freebeacon.com/issues/government-bans-bacon-on-federal-prison-menus-adds-turkey-substitute/"]Government Bans Bacon on Federal Prison Menus, Adds Turkey Substitute[/URL]

I'm pretty sure that's unconstitutional per the "cruel and unusual punishments" clause of Amendment VIII.[/QUOTE]


LOL...Missed that. Good catch! :grin:
287.) Swamp Fox - 10/09/2015
[I]“I find it hard to believe that a survey would have found a majority of any population saying, ‘No thanks, I don’t want any bacon,’” Dave Warner, spokesman for the National Pork Producers Council, said. “We’re going to find out how this came about and go from there. We wouldn’t rule out any options to resolve this.”[/I]


Go nuclear?


:grin:
288.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2015
Hillary at the debate tonight...







And oh, by the way, she doesn't sweat, and may not even be humanoid...


[I]Clinton talked about her seemingly superhuman ability in an interview for BuzzFeed’s Another Round podcast. “The weirdest thing about me is that I don’t sweat,” she said.

And then she had way too much fun with it.

“You guys are the first to realize that I’m really not even a human being. I was constructed in a garage in Palo Alto a very long time ago. … A man whose name shall remain nameless created me in his garage,” she said. “I’ve seen more people that kind of don’t sweat, and other things that make me think maybe they are part of the new race that he created: the robot race.”
[/I]



[url]https://www.yahoo.com/health/why-some-people-like-hillary-1277303008321590.html[/url]
289.) bluecat - 10/13/2015
I like the expressions of the other cats. "Wait, what?" "Hey!" "Really?"
290.) bluecat - 10/13/2015
Which democrat will build their campaign on the most free stuff? That's really the question.

Free community college? Pff, that ain't nothing. We're making 4-year college free now.




I'm sure they'll get a lot of tough questions too. Isis who?
291.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2015
:-)


You know on his next trip he's coming back for the whole bowl, LOL. That's what the little bandits do here. They know it's a lot harder for me to fling pellets at them if they eat in the woods rather than out on the edge where the food bowls are. I've never seen one grab a handful and run off with his loot like that, though...LOL
292.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2015
My money is on no email questions or pokes from the other candidates, and not very tough ones from the mods. Did you see the latest about how wide-open her server was, and the Siberian hacker? That was today, I think.


O'Malley might try to stir the pot, just because he's that kind of d-bag. Bernie's in la-la land and I think he'll stay on his own channel, communicating with the other space people for a while longer before he feels he has to engage Hillary directly.

I don't see Webb going anywhere, but maybe he'll jab Hillary about support for the Iraq war or intervention in Libya. I soured on him a long time ago, when he bugged out on Iraq and the GWOT, but that's not to say he can't make a good point every now and then.

I'm interested to hear more about the metric system from Lincoln Chaffee, not as an American, but as someone who is thinking about self-identifying as a South Sea Islander...It could come in handy.
293.) bluecat - 10/13/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35335] Did you see the latest about how wide-open her server was, and the Siberian hacker? That was today, I think. [/QUOTE]

You mean out in the open and not in a desk cubby or something? :wink

No, I didn't hear about any of that today. It was so depressing, I listened to Jim Rome.
294.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2015
LOL


"What, you mean with an ax or something?"
295.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2015




I do think the only person who is likely to say something utterly stupid tonight, since Obama won't be there, is Hillary. (Aside from lousy policy proposals, wrong-headed ideas, misreadings of history, and lies, that is.) Something on the order of "I was for that [insert random liberal cause here] before it was cool" in inexplicable defiance of the evidence, is what I mean.


Look for her to claim victory with the reset button. Dollar to a donut that comes up.


I bet she's glad she was part of this leadership team:



"In what way?...Steve, I gotta tell ya...My definition of leadership would be leading on climate change..."








[url]http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/12/obama-on-putin-in-syria-my-definition-of-leadership-would-be-leading-on-climate-change/[/url]
296.) DParker - 10/13/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35334]You know on his next trip he's coming back for the whole bowl, LOL.[/QUOTE]

And since he was smart enough to wear that mask they'll never know it's him.
297.) Swamp Fox - 10/13/2015
:-)....
298.) DParker - 10/14/2015
If you're going to watch the Dem debate tonight and aren't already drunk (which seems unlikely, but...whatever), here are some helpful suggestions for libations to accompany the event:

[video=youtube;Apfd10FlgME]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apfd10FlgME[/video]
299.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
LMAO! That's brilliant. What's that in Webb's drink? Slice of ham or turkey?

:tu:


I didn't watch, but caught some of the summaries. I think Hillary's "I didn't take a position on keystone until I took a position on it" while trying to explain away her flip-flops and naked pandering on left-wing pet positions qualifies as the stupid utterance I predicted, but I'll let you all decide. I may have missed something even better...LOL

I am going to be investing in some taller rubber boots now, though. Listening to the crowd go BeatleMania over Comrade Bernie and Miss Congenialty up there is a stark reminder that it's piling up higher and deeper out there....
300.) bluecat - 10/14/2015
:ach::applause:
301.) bluecat - 10/14/2015
He keeps talking about a coalition that doesn't exist.
302.) bluecat - 10/14/2015
I turned it on for a few giggles. It wasn't 10 seconds in and Bush's name was involved. I went on to Forensic Files. The dead don't lie.
303.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
If I come across a highlight reel I can embed, I'll do it. There are a few video summaries out there but none obviously embeddable that I've come across yet.

I can't tell from what I've seen so far if she actually "went there" with the reset button, but she did say "we got a lot of things done with the Russians" or words to that effect at one point, and I presume that was in response to a question about relations up until or including the point when everyone (except Obama?) realized Putin was outmaneuvering us, i.e., the point when even the slow kids knew the "reset" was laughable.

I have seen where she took a shot at Edward Snowden for jeopardizing intelligence information, which is quite rich, and which I'm sure will come back to haunt her, as will her statement that she's "been consistent all [her] life" which, had I been watching live, would have been the point where beer shot out my nose.

The other big thing that I got a kick out of was when she said she "gave" or "volunteered" (or some such) her emails/documents etc. for examination after leaving the administration, as if she hadn't actually had them pried from her grasp by force of law after the House fell on her. The NY Times outed her, and the FBI opened an investigation, but of course it's a rightwing conspiracy. Yeah, she "welcomes" an examination of her records the way Brumhilda from Cellblock A at the women's prison welcomes a cavity search after Recreation Hour in the yard. That's another highlight to look for in the video.
304.) DParker - 10/14/2015
I just think it's funny as hell that the same air-heads who are constantly berating the GOP for being too "old, white and male" are now swooning over this...

305.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
In times like these, mortals turn to epic verse:



[I]Hard Choices---

A Poem At The Twilight of a Nation

[/I]by Swamp Fox


[I]They asked me to differentiate,

But you know I can't answer a question straight.

So while I'm not technically socialist,

I'm very proud of my uterus

And I expect your vote, though it be ludicrous.
[/I]
306.) billy b - 10/14/2015
Very nice Longfellow:wink
307.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
Thanks. :p

I'm thinking if Obama could win a Nobel Peace Prize before he even got in office, I can win [B]some[/B] sort of poetry contest...



:wink
308.) DParker - 10/14/2015
Oh, he's no Henry Gibson.

[video=youtube;k61ZJpMDBzU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k61ZJpMDBzU[/video]
309.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
:grin:


:tu:
310.) DParker - 10/14/2015
Although....Henry Gibson was no John Wayne....

[video=youtube;_BaiMASPSrw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BaiMASPSrw[/video]

(I actually remember seeing that when it originally aired.)
311.) bluecat - 10/14/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;35354]I just think it's funny as hell that the same air-heads who are constantly berating the GOP for being too "old, white and male" are now swooning over this...

[/QUOTE]

What is a Uman being that is sick of hearing about Hillary's emails.
312.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;35361]Although....Henry Gibson was no John Wayne....



(I actually remember seeing that when it originally aired.)[/QUOTE]




Damn you're old!


LOL
313.) DParker - 10/14/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35363]Damn you're old!


LOL[/QUOTE]

And it get's worse every day.
314.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
If Bernie hadn't actually been kissing up to her, it would have been a good attack line to say "We're all sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails!"


I know that's one of the things I'd like to tell her.

Dumb bunny...:re:
315.) DParker - 10/14/2015
The sickening part wasn't him saying that...it was the "press" erupting in applause.
316.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
And I'm not falling for the Grammaw thing either!


LOL
317.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
I saw a tweet which mentioned that (the press applauding)....Not that I tweet...Shoot me if I start...I just read tweets every once in a while if they get posted on line somewhere, LOL


I thought Cooper gave her a big pass when Chafee stated he'd never had a scandal and Cooper asked her "Do you want to respond?" and she said "No" to great applause and laughter in the room, and he let her get away with that.

The question which is not the softball version is not "Do you want to respond?" but "How do you respond?"


Addressing her as "Your Highness" is optional.
318.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
[I]What Is This, A Joke? [/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]The Socialist and the Uterus

Walk into a bar.

She's received as a star.

He's got her back,

The press won't throw flak.

Me, I just yak.
[/I]
319.) DParker - 10/14/2015
That's some terrible haiku.
320.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
LOL...


I'll leave the haiku up to you and Bluecat.


You know, if things don't pick up around here, we should start working on a[I] Big Book of HC Poetry[/I] and maybe we could have it out by Christmas...
321.) bluecat - 10/14/2015
Hillary Clinton
I deleted Benghazi
I'll never do time
322.) DParker - 10/14/2015
[i]Where is the waitress?
My pint glass is so empty.
Her tip will suffer.[/i]
323.) bluecat - 10/14/2015
Where is the waitress?
Her huge cups runneth over
She's a sexy gal
324.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
LOL...I can see you two in your kimonos right now...


And I'm not even drinking yet.


:wink
325.) bluecat - 10/14/2015
Hey, it was my first haiku, I just arrived, my dad died last year, I didn't know what I was doing.


:wink
326.) bluecat - 10/14/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35379]LOL...I can see you two in your kimonos right now...


And I'm not even drinking yet.


:wink[/QUOTE]

I've got a kimono and a geisha girl. DP has these big diapers on and he's kicking sand around. Disgusting.
327.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
LOL...
328.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35380]Hey, it was my first haiku, I just arrived, my dad died last year, I didn't know what I was doing.


:wink[/QUOTE]


[I]What If They Were Muppets? [/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Big Bird seemed befuddled,

His answers often muddled.

But to me on the couch,

He was less of a slouch

Than either the Witch or the Grouch.


[/I]
329.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
330.) Swamp Fox - 10/14/2015
[I]Vision For America[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]The crowd was electric,

But not thinking metric.

They really liked Sanders

But nobody panders

Like Hill'ry, which explains liberal ganders.

[/I]
331.) DParker - 10/14/2015
[i]Still, with no lager.
Yet the next table has some.
Time to go elsewhere.[/i]


I'm just really looking forward to this Saturday's installment of the Parker household's bi-weekly local craft brewery tour.
332.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35380]Hey, it was my first haiku, I just arrived, my dad died last year, I didn't know what I was doing.


:wink[/QUOTE]

Anybody see what I did there?
333.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
We await your hard-won recommendations...:-)
334.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35393]Anybody see what I did there?[/QUOTE]



I did....LOL...Which is why I gave you a Lincoln Chafee poem in return...Did you see THAT?


:nk:



:wink:wave:
335.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
Actually, I gave you TWO Lincoln Chafee poems...LOL
336.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]Don't Blink[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]Hillary thinks she has earned it,

While Warren prefers if we Berned it.

Barack's being coy

Whether Biden's his boy.

Brains? I haven't discerned it.
[/I]
337.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
You are a master Swampy.

I only have so much material, I can't waste anything.:-)
338.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
Well, considering not many watched carefully enough to catch your reference, you were wise to point it out, LOL. :tu::tu:


I missed your Playboy reference the other day for a whole 24 hours...I felt bad....LOL
339.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
It's either that or more strange addictions.
340.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
Who thought clothed woman would be good for business? :laugh::laugh:
341.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
I would have liked to be a fly on the wall at that business meeting.

Uh Heff, we think putting clothes on woman will drive men to buy more of our magazines.
342.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
It probably won't be, but who needs [I]Playboy[/I] when the girls in your Social Studies class will send you plenty of sexts for free, LOL...
343.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
And you know their really girls...
344.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
Well, you think so, anyway...LOL
345.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;35392][i]Still, with no lager.
Yet the next table has some.
Time to go elsewhere.[/i]


I'm just really looking forward to this Saturday's installment of the Parker household's bi-weekly local craft brewery tour.[/QUOTE]


We await your hard-won recommendations...
346.) DParker - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35406]We await your hard-won recommendations...[/QUOTE]

It's a thankless job, but....y'know.

Just 7 years ago there wasn't a single craft brewery in the entire D/FW Metroplex. Today there are at least 15 that I know of (including one right here in my sleepy little 'burb) with several more scheduled to open before the year is up. A couple of months ago the wife and I resolved to visit one taproom every other weekend until we've tried them all. We've been to 4 so far and have yet to be disappointed. A few of the brews we've sampled have been swings-and-misses (mostly over-hopped IPAs that seem to have been trendy lately), but all of the others (some 30+) have quite enjoyable...with a few being downright delicious.

There has really never been a better time in history to be a beer drinker.
347.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
Sounds like a worthy adventure. :grin:


:beer:
348.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]What's The Matter With Bill[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]Bill Clinton has had some anxiety

That his love life's got no variety.

He's admitted when pressed

That even undressed,

His wife's as much fun as sobriety.

[/I]
349.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
These are suitable for framing.
350.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[I]The Democratic Oath[/I]

by bluecat

Everything is Bush's fault
The economy,
Turmoil in the middle east,
The fact that there are mass shootings,
Anything bad or unhappy,
The crazy debt,
Racial unrest,
People who are more comfortable identifying with other objects or sexes.
Well, that's pretty much it.
351.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]A National Conversation[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Clint Eastwood once spoke to a chair,

And the Dems didn't think that quite fair.

But after two terms

Performance confirms

Their hope all along was thin air.
[/I]
352.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
:tu:

I propose a new section labeled "Poetry, Haikus and Sonnets".
353.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[I]Hope and Change[/I]

by bluecat

So many problems
Damn you past President Bush
Where is my free stuff?
354.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
LOL


"Poetry Topic of the Day"...


:omg:


:groan:


:p
355.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[I]Leading From Your Behind[/I]

by bluecat

Apologize now
For All the Good We Have Done
Bury Head in Sand
356.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35416][I]Leading From Your Behind[/I]

by bluecat [/QUOTE]


:laugh::applause:
357.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]
Short Bus
[/I]
by Swamp Fox



[I]He insisted Bush drove to the ditch,

But he is the Master of Glitch.

So getting the keys,

He envisions whirled peas

Instead of jump-starting this bitch.
[/I]
358.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]Mean Ol' Levy[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Fiscally, Dems are a pain.

They sure do stay in their lane.

Taxing and spending,

The tale's never-ending.

O'Malley put tariffs on rain.[/I]
359.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35418]


Instead of jump-starting this bitch.
[/QUOTE]

That is some funny stuff right there.
360.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
I'm glad *someone* is entertained, LOL....
361.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[I]PC[/I]

by bluecat

Mr. or Mrs.?
You're a pathetic racist.
Do you sleep at night?
362.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
You'll like this:


Not a complete list, LOL, but includes all relevant links so you can view a lot of stupidity in one place, in all its glory....


[url]http://freebeacon.com/blog/whats-racist-whats-not-as-of-friday-oct-3-2014/[/url]


Enjoy!
363.) Wild Bob - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;35407]It's a thankless job, but....y'know.

Just 7 years ago there wasn't a single craft brewery in the entire D/FW Metroplex. Today there are at least 15 that I know of (including one right here in my sleepy little 'burb) with several more scheduled to open before the year is up. A couple of months ago the wife and I resolved to visit one taproom every other weekend until we've tried them all. We've been to 4 so far and have yet to be disappointed. A few of the brews we've sampled have been swings-and-misses (mostly over-hopped IPAs that seem to have been trendy lately), but all of the others (some 30+) have quite enjoyable...with a few being downright delicious.

There has really never been a better time in history to be a beer drinker.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you Parker...heck, my large town :re: of 3,300 population even has a brewery now! :tu:
364.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]Acid Influx[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]Dreaming a perfect society,

Bernie has gained notoriety

For shaking his fists

And making long lists:

Free stuff to the point of satiety.


[/I]
365.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
You have a gift. :p
366.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
No, it's just that my super-power is procrastination...:wink
367.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]Blade Runner[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Enemies lists could be for nuttin'.

But Repubs and the wealthy need cuttin'.

Hill's pretty damn sure

That she's got the cure.

Cackling, she'd stopped Bill from ruttin'.

[/I]
368.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[I]Hocus Pocus[/I]

by Nancy Pelosi

Did I read the bill?
No, you have to pass the bill
To know what's in it.
369.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]I Got Your Bamboo Shoot Right Here[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]Hillary perfects the tradition

Where pols won't stake a position.

And it's never so clear,

'Til a tough campaign year,

They like sex in the pander position.[/I]
370.) DParker - 10/15/2015
371.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
:laugh: Must have fallen out of the 'clip' ...:wink
372.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[I]Liberal Logic[/I]

by bluecat

18 trillion debt
Free health care for illegals
Free college, people!
373.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
LOL...


Those look high-powered.
374.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
375.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]Coping Mechanism[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]It's hard not to sneer

At Dems showing their rear.

And with all the debt

That makes me upset,

My vote's for lots of free beer.

[/I]
376.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[I]Plea[/I]

by bluecat

I hate all freedoms
Register me Democrat
Please take care of me
377.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]Close Only Counts...[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Barack wouldn't wear a flag button.

Donkeys range spendthrift to glutton.

Charlie threw a grenade

And Jim's fortune was made.

But a Dem's head is still mostly mutton.

[/I]
378.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
:applause:
379.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35440][I]Close Only Counts...[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Barack wouldn't wear a flag button.

Donkeys range spendthrift to glutton.

Charlie threw a grenade

And Jim's fortune was made.

But a Dem's head is still made of mutton.

[/I][/QUOTE]

That's a going to go down as a classic. Can't stop laughing.
380.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]Top Dog[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]We know that our flag is in tatters,

Not that it always matters

To the Hope N Change set.

Yeah, a Dem I'd regret,

But I'd rather have Webb than those ratters.



[/I]
381.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35440]

Charlie threw a grenade

And Jim's fortune was made.
[/QUOTE]

:laugh:
382.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
Glad you liked it...LOL
383.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
Had to get up and go wash my face and recompose myself.
384.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
That's what I'm here for....To make sure people keep up with their personal hygiene...


:beer:
385.) bluecat - 10/15/2015
[I]Lamborghini[/I]

by bluecat

Repubs hate woman
It's pretty clear that they do
"More baby parts please."
386.) Swamp Fox - 10/15/2015
[I]Wish List[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]I try hard to always be sunny,

But plainly it's not at all funny

That if you're pro-choice,

You can choose a Rolls Royce,

Yet libs pick what I do with my money.

[/I]
387.) bluecat - 10/16/2015
[I]Overworked[/I]

by bluecat

Today I will golf
Then I will fundraise a bit
Way too much to do.
388.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
[I]Grow a Pair[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]If I had a job like Barack's

My hide would be thick as a croc's.

But he spends his whole day,

When not putting away,

Whining unfair treatment by Fox.


[/I]
389.) bluecat - 10/16/2015
[I]Benghazi[/I]

by bluecat

Spades all day then golfed
Jay Z and fundraiser next
Benghazi, Ben who?
390.) bluecat - 10/16/2015
[I]Flabby Arms[/I]

by bluecat

I can't stand the fat
That hangs from Michelle's triceps
It's so disgusting.
391.) DParker - 10/16/2015
And from the "Tell a lie often enough..." files:

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/10/16/clintons-claim-that-40-percent-of-guns-are-sold-at-gun-shows-and-over-the-internet/"]Washington Post Fact-Checker: Clinton’s claim that 40 percent of guns are sold at gun shows and over the Internet[/URL]

That one was thoroughly debunked by every major reputable fact-checking organization in the country when Obama was spewing it two years ago, and that debunking has been repeated numerous times since, with the above story being only the latest example....and yet she and others (like Mark Giffords, just a few days ago) keep regurgitating it.

You know, I'm old and jaded enough to not really mind when politicians lie to me. After all, it's essentially impossible to get elected in this country by telling the truth. But I expect them to at least work at it a little. This is just laziness.
392.) bluecat - 10/16/2015
Can you make that into a haiku or a sonnet? It's the least you could do.
393.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
[I]Back To School[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]It's true that libs fib about guns.

It's a good thing they're not taught by nuns.

Whenever you lie,

The good sisters don't cry,

Nor beat you to death with their puns.


[/I]
394.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
[I]Appearance Matters[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Vlad Putin loves to take off his shirt

So Obama's feelings get hurt.

People like Michelle's guns

More than Hillary's buns,

But Barack's the one wearing a skirt.


[/I]
395.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;35454]...
You know, I'm old and jaded enough to not really mind when politicians lie to me. After all, it's essentially impossible to get elected in this country by telling the truth. But I expect them to at least work at it a little. This is just laziness.[/QUOTE]


The libs and the anti-gun media (along with the no-nothing and the lazy media) are too confused by the whole [I]correlation vs. causation[/I] and [I]" firearms deaths" and gun laws[/I] puzzle to come up with anything original right now.

But as soon as they find a way to reach the wrong conclusions about those things (some already have) they'll be back in the saddle again.
396.) DParker - 10/16/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35455]Can you make that into a haiku or a sonnet? It's the least you could do.[/QUOTE]

No...even though I am pretty much all about doing the least that I can do.
397.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
LOL...
398.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
You know, I really want to like Mark Giffords, and I've seen him say some pretty moderate things in the past, but at other times I'm reminded that just because you're an astronaut, it doesn't mean you're a rocket scientist.


But this might explain some of it:


[I]Humans are physiologically well-adapted to life on Earth. Consequently, spaceflight has many negative effects on the body.[1] Significant adverse effects of long-term weightlessness include muscle atrophy and deterioration of the skeleton (spaceflight osteopenia).[2] Other significant effects include a slowing of cardiovascular system functions, decreased production of red blood cells, balance disorders, eyesight disorders and a weakening of the immune system. Additional symptoms include fluid redistribution (causing the "moon-face" appearance typical in pictures of astronauts experiencing weightlessness),[3][4] loss of body mass, nasal congestion, sleep disturbance, and [B]excess flatulence.[/B]
[/I]

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_spaceflight_on_the_human_body[/url]


[Emphasis mine. Perhaps we can find some studies that show that flatulence causes verbal diarrhea, in the same way that guns cause violence and gun laws cause peace, apparently.]
399.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
[I]Word Control[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]Bill's position on guns really sucks.

He thought he could fool you with ducks.

And now with his wife,

You should run for your life.

Both Clintons are felonious....schmucks.
[/I]
400.) bluecat - 10/16/2015
:grin:
401.) DParker - 10/16/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35462][I]Word Control[/I]

by Swamp Fox



[I]Bill's position on guns really sucks.

He thought he could fool you with ducks.

And now with his wife,

You should run for your life.

Both Clintons are felonious....schmucks.
[/I][/QUOTE]



Oh, wait....my bad. I thought you said "Thelonious Monk". Never mind.
402.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35176]Felonious Mac N Cheese?


Play some jazz in the background when you have people over...[/QUOTE]


:wink



Also, there's a comedian named Felonious Munk...I haven't heard him do anything too funny, but I'm just sayin'. :beer:
403.) Swamp Fox - 10/16/2015
[I]Makes The Medicine Go Down[/I]


by Swamp Fox


[I]This weekend DParker goes sampling some craft brews,

Which sounds like escape from the daft news.

When Playboy goes clothed,

He shouldn't be loathed

For wanting some fun with some draft booze.

[/I]
404.) bluecat - 10/16/2015
[QUOTE=DParker;35433][/QUOTE]

Whatever gets the business end of those is screwed.
405.) bluecat - 10/17/2015
[I]Suds and Duds[/I]

by bluecat

Pour me some suds
Then take off your duds
Let's get our freak on
406.) DParker - 10/17/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35467]Whatever gets the business end of those is screwed.[/QUOTE]

Just a bit.
407.) bluecat - 10/17/2015
That would really torx someone off.
408.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2015
Police are looking for the get-away driver...
409.) DParker - 10/17/2015
I'll bet it happened here...

410.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2015
LOL...


I was gonna ask "Where's Terrance?"


411.) Swamp Fox - 10/17/2015
[I]Fighting Words[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]There's a gang called Revenge of the Nerds

Who had it out for some thugs called the Turds.

They snuck up in a Prius

Yelling "You wish you could be us!"

And drove home to play Angry Birds.

[/I]
412.) bluecat - 10/17/2015
:laugh:

Nicely done gentlemen.
413.) bluecat - 10/18/2015
Better tighten up those laws a bit. You wouldn't want some nut getting loose.
414.) DParker - 10/18/2015
[URL="http://www.grapevineontap.com"]Grapevine Brewery[/URL]

Another winner. In spite of the "Hop Fest" moniker applied to their IPA there were no over-hopped brews in the line-up. All 10 varieties sampled had their own character and were quite tasty. Especially good were the "Sir William's English Brown Ale" and the "Night Watch Oatmeal Stout", with both offering, in different proportions, hints of coffee and chocolate flavors. These two will be favorites to accompany my chili (no beans!) when the weather cools a bit more.

For warmer temps their Belgian-style "La Saison des Festivals" is an excellent choice (I'm really digging the Belgian dubbels and tripels everyone seems to be making now).
415.) billy b - 10/19/2015
D, did you ever go to Two Rows Café & Micro Brewery back around the late 90's, they were on Greenville avenue, don't know if they are still there or not?
416.) DParker - 10/19/2015
I never went to the one on Greeneville (which closed in 2008) but I ate at the Plano location a couple of times...before it closed in 2009. The Addison one has since shut down too. It was decent, as I recall, and they had a good selection of microbrews.
417.) bluecat - 10/19/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35479]Better tighten up those laws a bit. You wouldn't want some nut getting loose.[/QUOTE]

This is a fine thread...:wink
418.) DParker - 10/19/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35488]This is a fine thread...:wink[/QUOTE]

THESE are fine threads.

419.) bluecat - 10/19/2015
Those [B]are[/B] fine!
420.) bluecat - 10/19/2015
Those boys are steppin out!
421.) Swamp Fox - 10/19/2015
[I]It Builds Character[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Luv2 dearly loved disco nights,

But he kept getting into bar fights.

His shirt half undone,

It was twenty to one:

He insisted his slacks weren't tights.




[/I]
422.) Deerminator - 10/19/2015
:laugh::tu:
423.) bluecat - 10/21/2015
Tomorrows a big day for Hillary. I wonder what color pant suit she's gonna go with.
424.) Swamp Fox - 10/21/2015
What color is Teflon?
425.) bluecat - 10/21/2015
She better go with brown, cause Trey Gowdy is gonna hand it to her.
426.) Swamp Fox - 10/21/2015
I'm not overly optimistic, simply because the demeanor of the Dems on the committee has always been to cover her butt for her and to poo-poo the whole process, which should unite reps of both parties in an effort to find out what went wrong.

Instead, we have these prime examples: Elijah "Hammerhead" Cummings and Adam "Camera Weasel" Schiff. Somehow these minions feel that if they keep saying "Nothing to see here" it will eventually work out for them. And maybe they're not wrong. Dems in office and on the street don't seem to care that they're giving cover to and about to nominate a deceitful incompetent who believes she's above it all and that half the country is her enemy.

There's a reason some call her "Nixon in a Pantsuit", and it ain't a compliment.


The rotating R-then-D sequence of questioning/grandstanding will serve to soften blows that should damage her and bolster irrelevancies and falsehoods which prop her up.

So I guess I would say that I'm hopeful some light gets thrown in the dark corners, but I'm not planning a party.
427.) DParker - 10/21/2015
As awesome a grilling performance as Gowdy always turns in...the sad fact is that to date, NONE of it has ever resulted in anything. Holder and Co. skated on Fast & Furious, no one has been held to account at the IRS and I predict the same regarding Benghazi.

It's good theater though.
428.) Swamp Fox - 10/21/2015
And now that she doesn't have to worry about Biden, she'll be cackling uncontrollably to, in and from the committee room. What a load off Her Highness.

I feel bad for the American people. Instead of getting to choose between two Democrats who've never been right about anything, we're down to one.


(Bernie doesn't count in this equation because he's sometimes been right about guns, LOL)
429.) Swamp Fox - 10/21/2015
Plus Bernie's not a Democrat. He's a socialist.

Oh, wait....


LOL


The money moment is around 1:00, but the whole thing is worth watching...








[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/debbie-wasserman-schultz-can-t-tell-difference-between-democrats-and-socialists[/url]
430.) Swamp Fox - 10/21/2015
[I]She's No Treat[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Hill'ry cackles and acts like a queen.

I curse and yell at my screen.

She whines 'bout a witch hunt

But please let me be blunt:

With her every day's Halloween.

[/I]
431.) bluecat - 10/21/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35580]Plus Bernie's not a Democrat. He's a socialist.

Oh, wait....


LOL


The money moment is around 1:00, but the whole thing is worth watching...










[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/debbie-wasserman-schultz-can-t-tell-difference-between-democrats-and-socialists[/url][/QUOTE]

She has no idea what the difference is because maybe the line is pretty faint.
432.) Swamp Fox - 10/21/2015
I haven't seen anyone comment on Chris Matthews' awkward position in this exchange.


[I]"I used to think there is a big difference. What do you think it is?" he asked again. "A Democrat like Hillary and a socialist like Bernie Sanders."

[/I]Later in the interview, as he's letting up on the stranglehold he has on DWS, he says, "I think there's a big difference. I think there's a huge difference."



I think that between those two statements---between when he USED TO think and then when he DOES think--Chris Matthews felt something run DOWN his leg, when it's possible he realized he had just asked the magic question that makes his team look REALLY bad. Next time, they make a diaper for that.

As for DWS, I think she's enough of a dumb cluck that she really DOESN'T know what the difference between a democrat and a socialist is, and it's only slightly less (more?) surprising she's not sharp enough to give an answer that doesn't make all Big D Democrats look like lefty loons.
433.) bluecat - 10/21/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35572]What color is Teflon?[/QUOTE]

It's kinda gray, like the bars on a cell.
434.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
LOL...

You know, another thing I learned today is that it has a melting point of 620 °F, so I think it's possible that even after Hillary's gone, she might survive the fires of Hell. Which is bad news for Satan (and Bill). Also, it's self-lubricating down to -450 degrees, so she's got the Ice Queen thing licked, too. Bill might want to get in on that, but then again, maybe not.

The only thing I can see that that would trip her up is that Teflon is shockingly hydrophobic, which means the hydros and all their PC friends will be lighting up Twitter and Facebook as soon as the news gets out, calling for boycotts and firings.
435.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
Lol!
436.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
437.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
If you don't want to read all the way through it, at least read the post script. Too funny.






Gowdy Response to Latest Cummings Letter








October 18, 2015

|

Press Release







Washington, DC—Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Trey Gowdy today released the following letter in response to yet another Democrat missive that seeks to distort the majority’s investigative effort. He also released the redacted email in question so the American people could decide for themselves regarding concerns about sources and methods. The committee will continue to protect sensitive information related to this email.

See below for text of letter:



October 18, 2015

The Honorable Elijah E. Cummings

Ranking Member

The Select Committee on the Events Surrounding

the 2012 Terrorist Attacks in Benghazi

U.S. House of Representatives

Washington, D.C. 20515



Dear Mr. Cummings:



Thank you for your early Sunday morning letter. I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

As you know our Committee is not investigating Secretary Clinton or allegations surrounding the handling of classified or otherwise protected information. Other entities may be investigating matters related thereto, but we are not. This is best evidenced by the fact our Committee has not issued a single subpoena related to her email arrangement or server or any aspect surrounding allegations of mishandling classified or otherwise protected information. Moreover, as you know out of the 54 interviews conducted by the Committee precisely one (1) has been related to her server and that interview - as you recall - was very short because the witness invoked his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. In fact, after the media - not our Committee, but the media - broke the news of her exclusive use of private email and her use of a personal server in early March of 2015, the next 21 witness interviews in a row had nothing to do with Clinton or her email. This hardly evidences your baseless allegations of a "pivot" toward the Secretary or her email. What broke that string of 21 interviews in a row unrelated to any aspect of her email was the June 16, 2015 deposition of Sidney Blumenthal, which is discussed below.

What is relevant to our Committee's jurisdiction is the Secretary's reliance on Sidney Blumenthal for advice and counsel on matters, inter alia, related to Libya/Benghazi. The Committee is reviewing Mr. Blumenthal’s email with respect to these and other matters outlined in my October 7 letter in that regard. As such the nature of the information provided to the Secretary in this regard is highly relevant to better understand decisions made before and after the attacks (there is no evidence Sidney Blumenthal provided any counsel during the pendency of the attacks). As such our Committee is the first Committee to gain access to Secretary Clinton's emails, Sidney Blumenthal's emails and now Ambassador Stevens' emails. Accessing this information is indispensable if we are to do what the House of Representatives asked us to do which is write the final, definitive accounting of what happened before, during, and after the attacks in Benghazi.

Contrary to your assertion, the CIA did not inform the Committee that anything about the facts stated in the October 7 letter “[was] wrong.” As usual, I would ask you to completely and accurately relate the facts rather than attempt to create an impression that is misleading based on an incomplete and selective recitation of the facts. In fact, my understanding is the CIA advised the Committee in a very brief email late Saturday night that it had reviewed the material in question and asked for no material to be redacted. In fact, the name of the alleged source was redacted from the material cleared for public release by someone in the Executive Branch – the fact that the CIA says it didn’t do it does not mean the material was not sensitive or classified. And in fact, additional information remains in the document that ordinarily would be considered highly sensitive. This appears to mean either Mr. Blumenthal conveyed false and unreliable information to Secretary Clinton about Libya and misrepresented it, or the review process is faulty or has been politicized. I also note the fact you did not quote the material in question in your letter, suggesting you yourself have reason to believe that it should not be publicly disclosed for some proper reason. These are important issues. I’m glad to know you also consider them important and worthy of detailed additional review by the Committee.

Our Committee has access to career civil servants, former federal prosecutors, former intelligence experts as well as military experts who are uniquely well suited to gauge intelligence information and how it should be handled. Although the Executive Branch is ultimately responsible for classification, we remain concerned with the naming of sources and methods and will continue to protect that information now and going forward where it is readily apparent to us.

As such, we will continue to redact certain information to protect sensitive information regardless of how others treat that information. Whether Secretary Clinton received protected information from Sidney Blumenthal or simply recklessly wrong information from Sidney Blumenthal is relevant at some level. What is most important is to protect information that can endanger others. As you will recall we had this same conversation when we received a letter from you we found troubling as it relates to the naming of certain assets. We did the responsible thing which was come to you, alert you to the issue, and allow for that information to be withdrawn and or otherwise not made public.

So, our position is consistent. Sources and methods of intelligence are among the most closely guarded information our government has. We will continue to redact that information and treat it with the highest level of confidentiality and sensitivity, and we would advise you to do the same.



Sincerely,

Trey Gowdy

Chairman



PS: I am envious of your staff's ability to get information from this administration in less than 45 minutes on a weekend. This is something the majority Members struggle to do on weekdays. Perhaps you would be willing to help us gain access to the information the Committee has been seeking from the administration for over half a year now.
438.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
:pop:
439.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;35605]....


As such, we will continue to redact certain information to protect sensitive information regardless of how others treat that information. Whether Secretary Clinton received protected information from Sidney Blumenthal or simply recklessly wrong information from Sidney Blumenthal is relevant at some level. What is most important is to protect information that can endanger others. As you will recall we had this same conversation when we received a letter from you we found troubling as it relates to the naming of certain assets. We did the responsible thing which was come to you, alert you to the issue, and allow for that information to be withdrawn and or otherwise not made public.

So, our position is consistent. Sources and methods of intelligence are among the most closely guarded information our government has. We will continue to redact that information and treat it with the highest level of confidentiality and sensitivity, and we would advise you to do the same.



Sincerely,

Trey Gowdy

Chairman



PS: I am envious of your staff's ability to get information from this administration in less than 45 minutes on a weekend. This is something the majority Members struggle to do on weekdays. Perhaps you would be willing to help us gain access to the information the Committee has been seeking from the administration for over half a year now.[/QUOTE]



There was a similar STFU moment on one of the Sunday shows this past weekend, with Pompeo jerking a knot in Schiff over hand-waving and asset-naming. Stopped him in his tracks. I almost had to have a cigarette afterwards.
440.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
I've been really impressed with Pompeo among others. Trey Gowdy, though, is he married? I think I'm in love.
441.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
Although I'm still watching, I got what I wanted. Proof positive that she knew it wasn't a video as per her email on the night of the attack. She later told the family of the fallen Navy Seal on the Andrews tarmac that she would get the perpetrator of the video.
442.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
Pompeo made the point around 3 PM about the Dems' performance at the hearing that I wanted to make.

I had to take a long break after the first hour or so. I probably missed some good stuff, but I'm hoping I get the highlights later. Hillary didn't help herself with what must have been five minutes of paper-shuffling instead of appearing to listen as Gowdy made his opening statement.

If I went into a meeting and did that, I'd have my ass handed to me.

And if I were running the meeting and someone else did it, it would be woe to the vanquished. :wink


Just wasn't a good start for her, and highlighted, for me, her standard imperious attitude.

Otherwise, from what I've caught, she doesn't appear to have done badly at all. Holding up in her own slippery way.
443.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
All the democrats just groused about how much money and time this whole thing costs and nothing new was revealed. Trey set Cummings and one of the others (Shiff maybe) straight.

Cummings is a mortarhead.
444.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
[I]Participation Award[/I]

by Swamp Fox


[I]Hillary doesn't much like the committee.

She thinks wiping servers is witty.

It's not really the point

That someone goes to the joint,

But no peace for four dead's pretty shitty.




[/I]
445.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
The democrats also groused about the fact that it wasn't an investigation but a prosecution. The family's of the four slain were at the hearing. He did them justice I can tell you that.
446.) crookedeye - 10/22/2015
how did Hillary do today..?
447.) crookedeye - 10/22/2015
do you guys honestly think Hillary..."are next president" has no remorse that people died and purposely didn't send some rangers over there..
448.) bluecat - 10/22/2015
I don't think she gave it a second thought.
449.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
She's lost more sleep than anyone...It must be true, since she said it in front of the cameras...LOL
450.) crookedeye - 10/22/2015
I didn't watch it ... I might see what oreilly has to say about it.. I cant stand the women myself ,,granted she come under fire when her plane landed in bosina or whatever she was at.. she was in combat..so she's going to be good in foreign policys..
451.) crookedeye - 10/22/2015
I remember her on the news channel "smiling" saying she was under fire... tell that to the guys on hill 66 in Vietnam... tell that to the guys and women pushing into Iraq..
452.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
Plus she has a uterus, so she's got that going for her...

:wink
453.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;35630]I didn't watch it ... I might see what oreilly has to say about it.. I cant stand the women myself ,,granted she come under fire when her plane landed in bosina or whatever she was at.. she was in combat..so she's going to be good in foreign policys..[/QUOTE]


LOL...


Plus she has a uterus, so she's got that going for her.


:wink
454.) crookedeye - 10/22/2015
are you sure about that?
455.) crookedeye - 10/22/2015
I kinda like trump. I like how he just hate's jeb bush and jeb bush hates him...lol
456.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;35634]are you sure about that?[/QUOTE]


Well that's what she tells us. Is there any reason not to believe what she says? Anything in her history that would make you suspicious? LOL
457.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
Trump could be a Hillary plant...I'm just sayin'. :poke:
458.) DParker - 10/22/2015
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;35633]Plus she has a uterus[/QUOTE]

Objection, Your Honor!!! Counselor is assuming facts not in evidence!
459.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
Her uterus = Mohammed video


Everyone with a brain knows it's irrelevant, but that doesn't stop Hillary supporters from rallying around it. Do both cause terrorist attacks, though? That might be the weakness in my analogy. Or maybe not, LOL.


Notice she tried to backtrack on the evidence she laid out today that the video storyline was a big fat lie all along.
460.) crookedeye - 10/22/2015
it doesn't matter what Hillary does..they got there way of thinking and we got are way of thinking..

right billy?? me and you no Hillary gots that fine ass.. that's not debatible
461.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
You know Billy can't answer that question the way he wants to...:wink
462.) crookedeye - 10/22/2015
he told me yuck.. one time..he was just being a player..if i'm checking it out.. you no billys checking it out..
463.) Swamp Fox - 10/22/2015
:laugh:
464.) bluecat - 10/23/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;35640]it doesn't matter what Hillary does..they got there way of thinking and we got are way of thinking..

right billy?? me and you no Hillary gots that fine ass.. that's not debatible[/QUOTE]

I thought you gave up weed?
465.) billy b - 10/23/2015
[QUOTE=crookedeye;35642]he told me yuck.. one time..he was just being a player..if i'm checking it out.. you no billys checking it out..[/QUOTE]

If you weren't my friend I would be on my way to Nebraska right now:bk::nk::bad::poke:
466.) Swamp Fox - 12/09/2015
[B][SIZE=3][COLOR="#FF0000"]Escalation: Hillary contradicts Benghazi families, denies blaming attacks on video at private meeting;

Update: New email shows Pentagon offered to deploy rescue forces during attack?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]




[I]Did you tell the families that the attack was about the film? Answer: No. My Townhall colleague Justin Holcomb has addressed her subsequent “fog of war” dissembling, which is belied by the fact that she consistently managed to get it right in private discussions, while peddling a very different tale in public. But let’s ignore that part of her answer for the moment. She was asked a direct question: Did she, or did she not, tell those family members that the Internet film was responsible for their loved ones’ deaths? She says she did not. This is a direct contradiction of very explicit memories shared on the record by multiple people who have far less incentive to lie than, say, a truth-challenged politician seeking power. This should be a serious problem for Hillary Clinton. The media spent an enormous amount of time fact-checking Donald Trump’s false claim about watching “thousands” of Muslims dancing in the streets of New Jersey on live television after 9/11. Here we have the presumptive Democratic nominee essentially arguing that Benghazi victims’ relatives are either forgetful simpletons, or liars. How mysterious that they all “forgot” in exactly the same way, and that their “lies” all match up. Is this another one of those conspiracies Hillary sees around every corner when her political ambitions are threatened? Stephanopoulos didn’t follow-up on this point during the interview. Other journalists should, relentlessly. She’s sure she didn’t blame the video in those discussions? If so, why are the families saying she did? And if they’re inventing a collective memory out of whole cloth, is it just a coincidence that Hillary happened to invoke the same video during her public remarks that day? And that another administration spokesperson made the same untrue connection on national television the next day? C’mon.[/I]


[url]http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/08/escalation-hillary-contradicts-benghazi-families-denies-blaming-attacks-on-video-at-private-meeting/[/url]


Video of Hill on [I]This Week [/I] this around this question at the link. ^^^^^^^ Note she invokes the fog of war excuse, even though she wasn't being shot at this time. But she didn't claim to be this time, so I guess that's an improvement. Fuller story on her fog of war claim below.

[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2015/12/07/hillary-likens-her-experience-of-benghazi-to-the-fog-of-war-n2090192[/url]
467.) Swamp Fox - 12/09/2015
[B][SIZE=3][COLOR="#FF0000"]Escalation: Hillary contradicts Benghazi families, denies blaming attacks on video at private meeting;

Update: New email shows Pentagon offered to deploy rescue forces during attack?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]




[I]Did you tell the families that the attack was about the film? Answer: No. My Townhall colleague Justin Holcomb has addressed her subsequent “fog of war” dissembling, which is belied by the fact that she consistently managed to get it right in private discussions, while peddling a very different tale in public. But let’s ignore that part of her answer for the moment. She was asked a direct question: Did she, or did she not, tell those family members that the Internet film was responsible for their loved ones’ deaths? She says she did not. This is a direct contradiction of very explicit memories shared on the record by multiple people who have far less incentive to lie than, say, a truth-challenged politician seeking power. This should be a serious problem for Hillary Clinton. The media spent an enormous amount of time fact-checking Donald Trump’s false claim about watching “thousands” of Muslims dancing in the streets of New Jersey on live television after 9/11. Here we have the presumptive Democratic nominee essentially arguing that Benghazi victims’ relatives are either forgetful simpletons, or liars. How mysterious that they all “forgot” in exactly the same way, and that their “lies” all match up. Is this another one of those conspiracies Hillary sees around every corner when her political ambitions are threatened? Stephanopoulos didn’t follow-up on this point during the interview. Other journalists should, relentlessly. She’s sure she didn’t blame the video in those discussions? If so, why are the families saying she did? And if they’re inventing a collective memory out of whole cloth, is it just a coincidence that Hillary happened to invoke the same video during her public remarks that day? And that another administration spokesperson made the same untrue connection on national television the next day? C’mon.[/I]


[url]http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/08/escalation-hillary-contradicts-benghazi-families-denies-blaming-attacks-on-video-at-private-meeting/[/url]


Video of Hill on [I]This Week [/I] this Sunday slipping around this question at the link. ^^^^^^^ Note she invokes the fog of war excuse, even though she wasn't being shot at this time. But she didn't claim to be this time, so I guess that's an improvement. Fuller story on her fog of war claim below.

[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2015/12/07/hillary-likens-her-experience-of-benghazi-to-the-fog-of-war-n2090192[/url]
468.) Swamp Fox - 12/09/2015
This is the update mentioned at the bottom of the article covered by the first link:


[I]UPDATE – Hmm, didn’t top Obama administration and Pentagon officials testify that there was no viable opportunity to send reinforcements to save our people under siege that night? So what “forces” are being referenced in this just-uncovered email sent from the Defense Department to the State Department during the attack, and why weren’t they deployed?


Newly released emails show that a senior Defense Department official offered the State Department “forces that could move to Benghazi” immediately during the deadly 2012 attack there on the American consulate. Jeremy Bash, the former Pentagon chief of staff, offered to provide forces at 7:19 p.m. on the evening of the attack, “only hours after they had begun,” according to Judicial Watch, which disclosed the email on Tuesday. “We have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak,” Bash wrote. Portions of the email remain redacted by the Obama administration…The newly disclosed email contradicts testimony to Congress by Obama administration officials who cited the inability to immediately provide forces in response to the attack.[/I]
469.) bluecat - 12/09/2015
Thanks for the update Swampy. The whole thing just makes me ill. The hell of it is, regardless of all this, she will escape unscathed.



Do you think she ever thinks about what a rotten human being she is?
470.) DParker - 12/09/2015
Give Hillery a break. She's still stressed out from taking sniper fire in Bosnia.
471.) bluecat - 12/09/2015
472.) Swamp Fox - 12/09/2015
[QUOTE=bluecat;37135]Thanks for the update Swampy. The whole thing just makes me ill. The hell of it is, regardless of all this, she will escape unscathed.



Do you think she ever thinks about what a rotten human being she is?[/QUOTE]




Perhaps the [I]New York Times[/I] can do a front page editorial before she is elected, to alert everyone.
473.) bluecat - 12/09/2015
474.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2016
Miss Transparency, Warmth and Personality:

Hillary with Jake Tapper re. emails...Herself summed up in 24 seconds:



475.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2016
Anybody else feelin' the Bern?
476.) billy b - 01/18/2016
Not for president, maybe for janitor.
477.) Swamp Fox - 01/18/2016
Bernie would be an awesome daycamp director... Give him a bullhorn...Who's supposed to be at the pool (Penguins, Mensheviks, Bolsheviks: Period Three; Otters, Teamsters, SEIU: Period Four) where to go to glue macaroni pieces together and paint them red (a variety of different shades available, including pink) and investigating who left their underwear in the auditorium ("Billy C, please report to the office...") ...but I could see him as President, too...
478.) Bob Peck - 01/19/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;38316]Anybody else feelin' the Bern?[/QUOTE] Not me.

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479.) DParker - 01/19/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;38316]Anybody else feelin' the Bern?[/QUOTE]

480.) bluecat - 01/19/2016
LOL to all the responses
481.) DParker - 01/20/2016
So....who gave Swampy the day off?
482.) Swamp Fox - 01/20/2016
Sorry.

I was busy directing the actions of the gun lobby.
483.) Swamp Fox - 01/20/2016
484.) DParker - 01/20/2016
:laugh:

Quick, someone track down ArkansasPigBowhunter...he's got a spot waiting for him with the Sanders campaign.
485.) Swamp Fox - 01/20/2016
:wink

It's better to strive for perpetual motion, than no motion at all...Which explains Sarah Palin today...
486.) bluecat - 01/20/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;38339][/QUOTE]

Good stuff right there.
487.) Swamp Fox - 06/08/2016
[B]Trey Gowdy Amused By Democrats on Committee[/B]


[url]http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2016/06/07/gowdy-amused-by-benghazi-dems-response-to-final-committee-report-n2174454[/url]


Excerpt:



[I]House Benghazi Select Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) just about laughed out loud when he read that the committee’s Democrats wanted to have a say in the panel's final report on their 2-year investigation. This, after representatives like Elijah Cummings (D-MD) have criticized the committee for months as a political scam intended to jeopardize former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's White House chances. Now he suddenly wants to contribute to their last efforts?

With this context, Gowdy responded with a letter of his own.


“Your May 31st letter was mildly amusing but not altogether surprising,” Gowdy starts.

"It is mildly amusing that after two years of abject obstruction, after two years of not lifting a finger to assist the Majority with the investigation, after two years of doing everything in your power to prevent a report from being written, you now want to participate in the drafting of the report."


The chairman's letter takes an even more sarcastic turn when he starts to “refresh” the Democrats on how “helpful” they’ve been throughout the investigation.


“[Y]ou have spent far more time writing letters, selectively leaking material, and spreading mischaracterizations than you have actually participating in this investigation,” he writes.
[/I]



:pop:
488.) bluecat - 06/08/2016
LOL! Now Trey is a great American!
489.) Swamp Fox - 06/08/2016
The link above includes a link to the whole letter. I haven't read it yet, but I plan to when I can fully enjoy it.

Apparently, he gives Congressman Hammerhead what-for, and I hope he doesn't spare Congresssman Schiffty. Those two are real gems.
490.) DParker - 06/08/2016
[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;41629]The link above includes a link to the whole letter. I haven't read it yet, but I plan to when I can fully enjoy it.[/QUOTE]

I read it yesterday. It's pretty good. But although it promises significant "new information", and I thoroughly enjoy listening to Gowdy verbally disassemble Ds during committee hearings, for all of the great theater none of has ever resulted in anything of real consequence. So I remain skeptical (but hoping to be proven wrong).
491.) Swamp Fox - 06/08/2016
I just read it. Ka-POW!


I hope Adam Schiff gets his own letter.

If people don't know Adam Schiff, look in the dictionary under "weasel."
492.) bluecat - 06/08/2016
Read the letter. LOL! I'm glad there are people like Trey around.
493.) Swamp Fox - 06/28/2016
Took a break to watch the Benghazi Committee's press conference which ended a few minutes ago. Their final report is out today. (I think you can find it on line if you want--800 pages, or so.)

The press conference is worth catching on youtube or wherever you can find it. Be sure to catch Mike Pompeo bluntly answer a question about his opinion about Hillary (which is not part of the report). Trey Gowdy did his usual great job of cutting through the BS. Two highlights: see him answer a reporter's question echoing Dem narrative that no new information would be forthcoming. Let's just say the narrative will have to be rewritten. Second, his comments on Susan Rice "making stuff up."
494.) bluecat - 06/28/2016
Been listening to the reports coming in. I'll have to check out the press conference.
495.) DParker - 06/28/2016
[URL="http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-benghazi-democrats-20160627-snap-story.html"]L.A. Times: House Democrats mistakenly release transcript confirming big payout to Clinton friend Sidney Blumenthal[/URL]

The brain trust that is the Dem component of the House Benghazi Committee thinks redacting electronic text by changing the font color is a solid security measure.
496.) Swamp Fox - 06/28/2016
When you're fighting the conspiracy, you have to use every tool in your shed...even if they're not that bright.

(See Hillary's speech with Elizabeth "Woo-Woo" Warren yesterday.)
497.) Swamp Fox - 06/28/2016
This is a pretty good, quick down-and-dirty on the Susan Rice/Ben Rhodes/Jay Carney misdirection.

[url]http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/28/more-benghazi-report-reactions-to-susan-rices-appearance-on-5-sunday-shows/[/url]


On a side note, I'm convinced someone at [I]Hot Air[/I] is reading my posts here. :p A week or so ago, they echoed my use of the term "batshit" when writing about the Orlando/gun control circus, and today I see them referring to the "musty Constitution," a phrase I used a few days ago. Or maybe those phrases are more cliché than I thought, LOL.

My hope is, though, that maybe SOMEBODY is reading this forum...LOL
498.) Hunter - 06/28/2016
Ha! Dreamer!!
499.) Swamp Fox - 06/29/2016
:shh:


:wink


I think you've probably hit the nail on the head about PETA. I never thought of that, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me, unless--for scent control--you remove the hog, drive him to a remote location, and execute him while your buddy pretends to take a leak.

"Leave the corn, take the delicious porker."
500.) bluecat - 06/29/2016
By porker which democratic presidential hopeful or their running mate are you referring to? :cf:
501.) Swamp Fox - 06/29/2016
I'm not that into politics...:wink
502.) Swamp Fox - 06/29/2016
I guess I posted my comment above in the wrong thread...:bang:


Serenity now!
503.) bluecat - 06/29/2016
I saw that, so thought I would poke at the bear.
504.) Swamp Fox - 06/29/2016
Me? I'm a harmless fuzzball...:wink
505.) bluecat - 07/05/2016
Looks like she is gonna walk.
506.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2016
It's still up to the Justice Department. If you can read or listen to Comey's statement and NOT bring charges, you're making an exception for Hillary that lesser mortals would not get. I question Comey's assertion that a successful prosecution in Hillary's case would be low-odds. People go to the big house on much less than what they outlined that they have on her. The fact that he thinks it's a weak argument that some of this stuff was "intentional" is not only bizarre, but---to my understanding---irrelevant to whether or not charges should be brought, if we are following the law.

But that's a big if, these days.

In any event, I look forward to the argument from Hillary's camp that she's been one of the best Secretaries of State in History, and is qualified to be President and entrusted with the security of the United States, after what Comey laid out.
507.) bluecat - 07/05/2016
Looks like it's all about intent. She didn't mean to do it, therefore, it is okay.

Nothing to see here, move along. :tap:
508.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2016
Comey makes the case for gross negligence charges, then says it's not prosecutable, in the sense of "let's not bother."

Intent is not required by the relevant statute.

You probably know that; I'm just venting. If somebody accused me of being "extremely careless" (I'd have to see the transcript to recall if Comey also used the word "reckless") I'd be 1) out of a job and unlikely to work again and 2) that's before the serious legal doo-doo hit the fan.


Comey also puts the lie to Hill's statement that she never sent or received information that was marked classified on her private system.

So, that should help Americans make up their minds about her in November. :re:
509.) DParker - 07/05/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;42173]Looks like she is gonna walk.[/QUOTE]

Was there ever any doubt?

[QUOTE=Swamp Fox;42174]It's still up to the Justice Department.[/QUOTE]

:::nudge:::nudge:::wink:::wink:::

You have a better chance of being eaten by a school of piranhas in your own bathtub than Hillary does of being indicted by the Obama admin DoJ.

What needs to be hammered home by the few media outlets that would be willing to do so is that, at the absolute [B][I]best[/I][/B], she lied her arse off about nearly every aspect of the case, exercised EXTREMELY poor judgement and was unforgivably careless when handling classified materials (up to and including those she knew to be top secret), exposing them to access by hostile powers....and surrounded herself with equally inept and careless people.

And that's the best that can be said about what Comey was willing to reveal.
510.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2016
[QUOTE=DParker;42178]
You have a better chance of being eaten by a school of piranhas in your own bathtub than Hillary does of being indicted by the Obama admin DoJ.

[/QUOTE]


Well, what keeps me going is the possibility somebody will get bitten on the penis by a snake sitting on the toilet...Which should be a reminder not to leave snakes sitting on your toilet...


[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/snake-bites-thai-man-on-penis-while-hes-sitting-on-the-toilet-a7051296.html[/url]



So I'm saying there's a chance ...LOL
511.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2016
Some intrepid Tar Heel should ask Obama while he and Hill are infesting the state today whether he still thinks Hillary is one of the finest Secretary of States" [sic] in light of Comey's statement.

I'd do it myself if I thought I wouldn't get a rash being in the same county with the two of them ...:fire:
512.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2016
Snakes On A Plane


513.) bluecat - 07/05/2016
[QUOTE=bluecat;42173]Looks like she is gonna walk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DParker;42178]Was there ever any doubt?[/QUOTE]

514.) Hunter - 07/05/2016
Nothing to see here, let's move on! :td:
515.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2016
Use protection if you're gonna watch the news tonight...It'll be a gynormous BS storm from the usual suspects.

516.) bluecat - 07/05/2016
:ach:
517.) Hunter - 07/05/2016
Saw some of the Clinton rally on tv. Scanned the crowd but didn't see your hat there Swampy?
518.) Swamp Fox - 07/05/2016
I think I caught flesh-eating bacteria as they flew over, so I wasn't able to make it.

The doctor says the only cure is to drink heavily, which I was gonna have to do anyway...